Buftex Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 How about they ignore it, go out and play a football game. If they are so pi$$ed off because the prez decided not to wash their ball$ like the media have been doing, take it out on the Broncos. Just suppose the Bills beat the Broncos tomorrow...what difference will their assumed protest mean to you? Why can't you ignore it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I understand just fine. I guess you don't. You truly don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Fair enough. I'll guess based on seventy straight years of something relentless and unwavering. You guess based on a recent hunch the opposite of everything in front of you. Cheers. But the Mexicans are going to pay for that really stupid wall. A recent hunch? Ok , I'm basing it on what I think. You are basing yours based on what you think. He backed law enforcement Officers and expressed great respect for the military. Obama invited racists to the White House . That's all I need to know. Did anyone really think there would be a wall, or that Mexico would pay for it. Campaign rhetoric, people need to separate the wheat from the chaff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Obviously firing players isn't really possible in that line of work. It was purely a hypothetical , " wouldn't it be great if" type thing. However, it's entirely feasible for owners just to stop the playing of the anthem or keep the players in the locker room until afterward. Then there would be no " platform" if you will. It would be great if fans would get up and walk out but they paid money and I doubt many would, at least in Buffalo. Your on to something...I wouldn't be surprised, a year from now, there is no national anthem before games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Maybe they can get replacement players to stand up for the anthem and have David Blaine stand in front of the kneeling players. Or maybe a random white player can stand, but place his hand on the shoulder of a kneeling idiot. So so touching , that gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Maybe they can get replacement players to stand up for the anthem and have David Blaine stand in front of the kneeling players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Your on to something...I wouldn't be surprised, a year from now, there is no national anthem before games. The national anthem is a newish tradition and it really isn't necessary to do it every game. The sanctity of the song is diminished the more frequently it's played anyway. The same is true of anything precious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Or maybe a random white player can stand, but place his hand on the shoulder of a kneeling idiot. So so touching , that gesture. But why is he an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 The funny thing is, the NFL has been, probably he strongest vehicle for American jingoism over the last 30 years or so...they have always been there for all the phony patriotic photo-ops...Trump is so scorned that the 32 billionaires didn't want him in their club, he went after them, and burned what should be an easy ally, for a fairly unpopular president. America has always loved the NFL. He can't even make the easy layup.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 But why is he an idiot? There are many reasons, I've listed them before and it's tiresome after awhile. Before the playing of the anthem, the announcer will say " to honor America , please rise..." . They don't wish to honor America , for the purpose of advancing a false narrative . People are there to watch a game. You want to hold a fist up in the air, fine but at least stand. Should we all wear signs to the game stating what we don't like about America so that all others can se it? That's not what the movement is for. Their " opinion" on things is no more valid than anyone else's . How selfish of them. A moment that is meant to unify is suddenly used to divide. This is arrogant , self aggrandizing behavior. " Look at me! I have an opinion Yay! It's statistically irrelevant and largely false but the media will lap it up without question. Such a turn off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 How about they ignore it, go out and play a football game. If they are so pi$$ed off because the prez decided not to wash their ball$ like the media have been doing, take it out on the Broncos. Why can't you just ignore it? You think the players should be able to ignore it and the comments were aimed directly at them, their fellow teammates and their place of employment. While none of this stuff has anything to do with you and you are still taking issue with it. You can't just ignore it yet you expect the players to do so. I know you will say "well it's their job" and I agree their job is to play football. But they are not prohibited at their job from expressing their viewpoint. Read all of the different owners who made statements today. Every one of them supported their players rights. They are allowed to feel however they want and express their opinion, just like you. They are also allowed to peacefully protest if they so choose. It is one of the rights our great constitution gives us. I agree though - take it out on the Broncos and win a damn football game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 The funny thing is, the NFL has been, probably he strongest vehicle for American jingoism over the last 30 years or so...they have always been there for all the phony patriotic photo-ops...Trump is so scorned that the 32 billionaires didn't want him in their club, he went after them, and burned what should be an easy ally, for a fairly unpopular president. America has always loved the NFL. He can't even make the easy layup..It's not easy to piss off and alienate two entire pro sports in one day. If it wasn't for NAFTA he would have trashed hockey and baseball too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 The funny thing is, the NFL has been, probably he strongest vehicle for American jingoism over the last 30 years or so...they have always been there for all the phony patriotic photo-ops...Trump is so scorned that the 32 billionaires didn't want him in their club, he went after them, and burned what should be an easy ally, for a fairly unpopular president. America has always loved the NFL. He can't even make the easy layup.. All 32 Billionaires didn't want him in their club ? I think he was outbid for the Bills. Anyway, he doesn't care about the easy layup. The NFL has with their salute to service and all that. Fans like it. It tugs at heartstrings. Now they are becoming less popular but won't point to the obvious reason why. They've looked for every other reason. They could have squashed this early. Talk about an easy layup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 The national anthem is a newish tradition and it really isn't necessary to do it every game. The sanctity of the song is diminished the more frequently it's played anyway. The same is true of anything precious. I've been watching sports since 1972. Thousands of games, all leagues...I don't remember once (except the Sunday after 9/11) being in a room of people watching a game on tv, where people stood up to observe the anthem. In fact, in the NFL, other than playoff games, and the occasional high profile prime time game, they don't even broadcast the anthems (except hockey!)...if people weren't told that these protests were happening before games, they wouldn't know the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Why can't you just ignore it? You think the players should be able to ignore it and the comments were aimed directly at them, their fellow teammates and their place of employment. While none of this stuff has anything to do with you and you are still taking issue with it. You can't just ignore it yet you expect the players to do so. I know you will say "well it's their job" and I agree their job is to play football. But they are not prohibited at their job from expressing their viewpoint. Read all of the different owners who made statements today. Every one of them supported their players rights. They are allowed to feel however they want and express their opinion, just like you. They are also allowed to peacefully protest if they so choose. It is one of the rights our great constitution gives us. I agree though - take it out on the Broncos and win a damn football game! In case you haven't noticed . The media , even on shows that are supposed to be about sports, won't let anyone ignore it. If they'd ignore it, that would make it easier for everyone else. They are still a business ( with an anti-trust exemption from Congress I might add) and it's in the interest of any business to give its customers what they want. Of course the libtard owners came out with statements , but not the owners who donated to Trump. Their opinion is wrong, yet it's portrayed in the media as fact. We all have opinions but only theirs are heard in that forum. Again, maybe ticked off fans should hold up signs during the anthem. It's not meant to be a time for a pi$$ing match. Why play it at all? I've been watching sports since 1972. Thousands of games, all leagues...I don't remember once (except the Sunday after 9/11) being in a room of people watching a game on tv, where people stood up to observe the anthem. In fact, in the NFL, other than playoff games, and the occasional high profile prime time game, they don't even broadcast the anthems (except hockey!)...if people weren't told that these protests were happening before games, they wouldn't know the difference. You are wrong. Most everyone stands. It's correct that the anthem was rarely shown , but now the media lap dogs show it and talk about it afterward. It's a complete joke show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 You are wrong. Most everyone stands. It's correct that the anthem was rarely shown , but now the media lap dogs show it and talk about it afterward. It's a complete joke show. Your an idiot. No one stands watching their TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 You are wrong. Most everyone stands. It's correct that the anthem was rarely shown , but now the media lap dogs show it and talk about it afterward. It's a complete joke show. So, when you watch a game on tv, they show the local prom-queen singing the anthem, you stand in your living room, hand on heart? I am not making fun of that, I just don't ever remember experiencing that... now, going to a game is different...but the vast, vast majority of Americans don't attend games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Wait, slow down everyone...I'm trying to decide which side I want to be offended by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property. (b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise. © The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free. (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speakers desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general. (e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way. (f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling. (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature. (h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything. (i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown. (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart. (k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning. You've all done a few of these. This isn't a disrespecting the country or flag issue. It's a human rights issue and the more everyone pretends to be patriotic, the longer our nation's problems will get dragged along and the endless argument goes on. Seems like the thin blue line flag is against our flags code of conduct. Hmmm, all those American flags with the bills logo? Yeah, against the code of conduct. That philosophical debate over the first amendment of carrying the Confederate flag? Well that's against the code of conduct for the AMERICAN FLAG. Edited September 24, 2017 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Wait, slow down everyone...I'm trying to decide which side I want to be offended by.I think they should just skip the anthem tomorrow and just sing Back in the USSR instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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