Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 You didn't link any study in the post I've been responding to. Please re-link, if you don't mind, so I don't have to go back through the thread searching for it. Also, before I dig into that study, which I will, can you tell me if it accounts for any of the issues I described about the other study? There were a bunch of different articles and links. This was in one of the links I posted but it is just the abstract to the study. https://ideas.repec.org/a/aea/aecrev/v94y2004i4p991-1013.html This was another... http://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138(15)00079-3/abstract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I totally agree with what Jerry Jones said. You have every right to protest, but while you are representing my team, you WILL stand for the national anthem!!!! If the Bills find that they are OK with a player disrespecting the country, than they lose me as a fan. Hats off to Jerry Jones!!! (I can't believe that I am saying that, but totally agree with his position......) Jerry Jones who regularly signs druggies, wife beaters, & pays hookers. But damn it, he's a true Patriot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Jerry Jones who regularly signs druggies, wife beaters, & pays hookers. But damn it, he's a true Patriot! A true Texas hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 There were a bunch of different articles and links. This was in one of the links I posted but it is just the abstract to the study. https://ideas.repec.org/a/aea/aecrev/v94y2004i4p991-1013.html This was another... http://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138(15)00079-3/abstract /facepalm Your first link is the study I linked the original content of, direct from the source. You second is a broken link which leads nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Jerry Jones who regularly signs druggies, wife beaters, & pays hookers. But damn it, he's a true Patriot! I kinda hate that there is now something I have to respect him for. As was well posted earlier, the First Amendment does not apply in the workplace. You do your job and play by the rules we make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 now he can claim he was cut for his protest or he won't and you'll be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 now he can claim he was cut for his protest It wouldn't be a valid claim. He's not an NFL caliber OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 So published studies in scientific journals and from the University of Chicago are not good enough for you? And all I did was click on the first two entries in a list of numerous ones.yes, they're not good enough for me And try looking better for this type of stuff. There is a lot of crappy reading to make your head hurt on it. CRT, for example....uh maze zing lee stoop ud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 /facepalm Your first link is the study I linked the original content of, direct from the source. You second is a broken link which leads nowhere. My bad. When I saw yours was from a link with Duke.edu I thought it was different and didn't read through. The welcome onewas working. There seems to be a bunch of different articles on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 /facepalm Your first link is the study I linked the original content of, direct from the source. You second is a broken link which leads nowhere. Again, do you deny this is real on any level? Or do you just want to argue the studies and the links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Mods must be out of town.amazingly no one is being a jerk face yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 amazingly no one is being a jerk face yet Ahh, but the night is young! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 It wouldn't be a valid claim. He's not an NFL caliber OT. same with Kaepernick being of NFL caliber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 yes, they're not good enough for me And try looking better for this type of stuff. There is a lot of crappy reading to make your head hurt on it. CRT, for example....uh maze zing lee stoop ud Scientific studies with real researchers from solid academia doing actual work with real numbers from documented cases are not good, versus Boyst62 random opinion with no research and no academia and no work and no numbers and no documents. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Jerry Jones who regularly signs druggies, wife beaters, & pays hookers. But damn it, he's a true Patriot! If Jerry Jones tried to discipline a player for refusing to stand for the anthem, the NFLPA would get it overturned in a millisecond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Scientific studies with real researchers from solid academia doing actual work with real numbers from documented cases are not good, versus Boyst62 random opinion with no research and no academia and no work and no numbers and no documents. Got it. This is why I stopped going to PPP. It is the exact cast of characters you are arguing with now, claiming over and over that scientific studies are wrong without providing any of their own evidence. That's not how science works. You're talking to a brick wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If Jerry Jones tried to discipline a player for refusing to stand for the anthem, the NFLPA would get it overturned in a millisecond. As it always does, it will come down to what's in writing. What does the CBA and his contract allow? But that's not helping Kaepernick right now, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 /facepalm Your first link is the study I linked the original content of, direct from the source. You second is a broken link which leads nowhere. This link analyzes the study you analyzed. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/mar/15/jalen-ross/black-name-resume-50-percent-less-likely-get-respo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 As it always does, it will come down to what's in writing. What does the CBA and his contract allow? But that's not helping Kaepernick right now, is it? I'm pretty confident that refusing to stand for the anthem does not run afoul of the personal conduct policy or constitute other misconduct justifying discipline under the CBA. But you're right, none of that is much help to Kaep right now. No arbitrator can order a team to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Serious question: do you really think there is nothing to this? When the study in question notes in it's own weaknesses that they have no idea if the employers ever saw the names on the resumes in an employment environment where automated processes have replaced human review, amongst other critiques? In a study that attempts to link name preference to racism at the expense of all other reasons for the discrepancy, and doesn't account for unusual "white" names, or ethnic "white" names in the process? Yes, I have my strong doubts. Edited September 1, 2017 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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