BarleyNY Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Hit him where he's fattest...........in the wallet how do you punish someone this wealthy? Financial penalties still can hurt even someone like Dareus. Team fines or suspensions can hurt badly. Notably, he would not get paid for games he is suspended for and the amount lost would be refunded to the team's cap space. He's at about $610k salary per game. That would have to hurt, especially if it is an escalating punishment. He just got a 1 game violation (although no financial penalty since it was a preseason game). Next might be 2 games for $1.22M, etc. Edited August 27, 2017 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Well to be fair how would everyone have felt if Dareus walked? Someone would have paid him. ask those who are calling for his head. I'm in the minority when it comes to that. I realize he's had his chances but were talking about not being punctual to a preseason game. if it were smoking a blunt or doing burnouts on his way late to the stadium I may have some concerns. at this point, he was disciplined and is still part of the team. if they were to rid of him, he'll be gone and the team will move on as should the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I strongly disagree. When I was a young army officer, I was taught, "You can come in like a lion and leave as a sheep. But if you enter as a sheep, you'll never be a lion." As a guy who builds teams for a living (albeit in a very different profession), I passionately believe you have to be clear about your expectations from the very beginning. There has to be strong accountability that doesn't play favorites. Accountability comes from the word 'count.' You count up the good or bad someone does and reward/punish them in measure. Holding people accountable isn't being a hard a$$. It's just being both smart and strong. Most people want to be on a high-performing team rather than in a loosey-goosey Rex Ryan environment that produces losing. McD's commitment to accountability won't just create a better team, it has a very good chance of making Dareus a better player. in theory you are right, but even Bill Parcels and Bill Belecheat played favorites with Lawrence Taylor.It is documented that first year 4-12 head coach Parcells was a diciplianaraian,but he had a few players that had their own rules....L.T. was such a talent Parcells let him be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I've not commented on any Darius threads for the last few years, mostly because I have some knowledge that could get a person or two in hot water. I can't remain entirely silent on the matter anymore. While I won't divulge what I know or from whom I can assure you all that he makes very bad decisions and rolls with some people that are shady AF. I know some people will doubt this, and rightly so given the lack of details, sources, etc. But I trust the info I've been given. The dude is a goddam **** head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I've not commented on any Darius threads for the last few years, mostly because I have some knowledge that could get a person or two in hot water. I can't remain entirely silent on the matter anymore. While I won't divulge what I know or from whom I can assure you all that he makes very bad decisions and rolls with some people that are shady AF. I know some people will doubt this, and rightly so given the lack of details, sources, etc. But I trust the info I've been given. The dude is a goddam **** head. Thanks for the inside info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I strongly disagree. When I was a young army officer, I was taught, "You can come in like a lion and leave as a sheep. But if you enter as a sheep, you'll never be a lion." As a guy who builds teams for a living (albeit in a very different profession), I passionately believe you have to be clear about your expectations from the very beginning. There has to be strong accountability that doesn't play favorites. Accountability comes from the word 'count.' You count up the good or bad someone does and reward/punish them in measure. Holding people accountable isn't being a hard a$$. It's just being both smart and strong. Most people want to be on a high-performing team rather than in a loosey-goosey Rex Ryan environment that produces losing. McD's commitment to accountability won't just create a better team, it has a very good chance of making Dareus a better player. while I totally agree that if you're going to ask for accountability you have to do so believably from the first minute, at this point, I doubt Dareus is ever going to get it. I'd love to see it, but he's had so many chances that I just can't believe he is going to ever really own his problems. Bill Walsh for one came in without a single NFL game and put a ton of rules in place for the Niners and had an awful first season. At least one coach was fired by Walsh for going behind his back to management saying he was putting too much emphasis on piddly-ass rules. Management stuck by Walsh and the coach was gone. There's a reason teachers are told not to smile till Christmas. You don't earn the right to make the rules with good performance over time. It's putting your rules in place that tends to determine what kind of performance you'll have in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan19 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Wasn't it Dareus that was suspended for parts of the last two games of the Marrone Era for being late? Not much growing upo has occured since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Wasn't it Dareus that was suspended for parts of the last two games of the Marrone Era for being late? Not much growing upo has occured since then.yes he was. Late for meetings. Edited August 27, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Well, if he can't be on the field maybe he can spend more time on his side business as a belly dancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I wonder if McDermott before sending Dareus home asked him, "Who do you think you are?" Get it? No? That was the best i had, I'm done for the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 He's had a such a hard time in his life...as if no other young NFL player has had to deal with adversity. [/sarcasm off] I said it when he signed the massive new contract and I still say it...they will regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 He's had a such a hard time in his life...as if no other young NFL player has had to deal with adversity. [/sarcasm off] I said it when he signed the massive new contract and I still say it...they will regret it. They already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I've not commented on any Darius threads for the last few years, mostly because I have some knowledge that could get a person or two in hot water. I can't remain entirely silent on the matter anymore. While I won't divulge what I know or from whom I can assure you all that he makes very bad decisions and rolls with some people that are shady AF. I know some people will doubt this, and rightly so given the lack of details, sources, etc. But I trust the info I've been given. The dude is a goddam **** head. I think you've got to elaborate at least a tiny bit otherwise this really doesn't add anything to the conversation and only muddies the water. I'm not saying spill everything but you are so incredibly vague that I think it actually takes away from a discussion instead of adding to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 he didn't create the contract. it was whaley who put them in the financial bind. as for comparing him to haynesworth. that's a pretty poor comparison. he was late to the game, he was disaplined for it. when he is out there on the field he is a beast and force to recon with. ....seriously?....who cares who created the contract?....Whaley's gone so a deal is NO LONGER a deal and he doesn't have to live up to what he signed?....BTW, I do realize he has been an upstanding citizen and model teammate until his FIRST slip up as in missing the bus.....sorry, Fat Albert Haynesworth II stands......can't believe a guy of your football knowledge and conjecture would make excuses for this diva.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Wasn't it Dareus that was suspended for parts of the last two games of the Marrone Era for being late? Not much growing upo has occured since then. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/06/03/bills-dareus-crashes-is-charged-with-drag-racing/9908215/ http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bills-dareus-fails-conditioning-test-20140721-story.html http://973espn.com/bills-marcell-dareus-enters-substance-abuse-program/ It wasn't like there weren't huge red flags waving all over the place before they signed that idiotic extension with him. Doug Whaley is the gift that will keep on giving until about 2021. EDIT: that's why I said that realistically the best possible outcome for Bills fans is that he goes all Josh Gordon on us. Edited August 27, 2017 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I wonder if McDermott before sending Dareus home asked him, "Who do you think you are?" Get it? No? That was the best i had, I'm done for the day... "Mr. Big Stuff Who do you think you are Mr. Big Stuff You're never gonna get my love…" That Mr. Big Stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I think there is more to this story...... just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I think there is more to this story...... just saying And I agree. For now it's "arrived late to a preseaon game" as the official story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) I think there is more to this story...... just saying And I agree. For now it's "arrived late to a preseaon game" as the official story. That's what happened. EOS. Edited August 27, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 That's what happened. EOS. It is what happened. But is it the only thing that's happened? I think that's far from the end of the story. How do I know that? Because every other incident has been "isolated" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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