KellyToughII Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Allen is my favorite QB in this class right now. I have to say Bobby he is really growing on me, I am liking this kid a ton and I think we would be able to get him. Ben R II? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I have to say Bobby he is really growing on me, I am liking this kid a ton and I think we would be able to get him. Ben R II? Yeah that looks like his style. IMO his hype train is going to go full speed and has a very good chance at being the too QB in this class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 And he will check out. This isnt Manziel  Beacause it has Happened a entire ONE time in the past 20 years.  These player if they declare will sign and play with the team that drafts them  Right because there is an Eli Manning in the draft every year.  The only QB with as much pre-season hype as Eli was Andrew Luck........who was drafted by a team who was QB-centric and had made the playoffs for like a decade straight prior to their one tank season.......so Luck had no reason to opt out.  If Darnold, Rosen and Allen make it from pre-season hype to top-o'-the-draft status and Buff/Clev have them in their crosshairs then expect their agents to try to dictate terms and 29 other teams lined up to take them off the Bills hands.  And of course.......expect Bills fans to be outraged...... and then thrilled with the trade return for someone who didn't want to play in Buffalo. They had no choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Yeah that looks like his style. IMO his hype train is going to go full speed and has a very good chance at being the too QB in this class Honestly, I would have no problems with Buffalo trading up to get this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Honestly, I would have no problems with Buffalo trading up to get this kid. Â If he plays that well then me neither. Â His agent......he might have a problem with it though. Â It's all relative.......if the hype train is at full speed......expect them to consider their asset to be solid gold whether it came from Wyoming or a national power. Â And keep in mind Buffalo's history with regard to players who might think the other side of the grass COULD POSSIBLY be greener......they get to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Â If he plays that well then me neither. Â His agent......he might have a problem with it though. Â It's all relative.......if the hype train is at full speed......expect them to consider their asset to be solid gold whether it came from Wyoming or a national power. Â And keep in mind Buffalo's history with regard to players who might think the other side of the grass COULD POSSIBLY be greener......they get to find out. I see your point, but I think allen is a kid that would have no issue coming to Buffalo and will tell his agent where he wants to go. I do think we are going to have to trade up to get him. Right now I have him, Falk and Mayfield at the top of my list and Allen has a slight lead on the other two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 JMO, but a top 1st round pick risking another year in college is a big one. Can't imagine an agent realistically recommending that. Thoughts? It can be a $20MM decision. Out earlier is one year closer to a big payday. Factor in the risk of injury or a poor year then they will run to declare. Â The reason not to is if they have a bad year. Then return and hope to light it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I see your point, but I think allen is a kid that would have no issue coming to Buffalo and will tell his agent where he wants to go. I do think we are going to have to trade up to get him. Right now I have him, Falk and Mayfield at the top of my list and Allen has a slight lead on the other two   Allen has a way to go as prospect.......good athlete with a big arm.......field vision, questionable........we shall see.........but QB's near the top of the draft board........they haven't really had to make that Buffalo/Cleveland decision for a long time.......and things have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Â Â Allen has a way to go as prospect.......good athlete with a big arm.......field vision, questionable........we shall see.........but QB's near the top of the draft board........they haven't really had to make that Buffalo/Cleveland decision for a long time.......and things have changed. How about Cam Newton going to a crap organization in a crappy, small-market town? He didn't make a peep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017  Right because there is an Eli Manning in the draft every year.  The only QB with as much pre-season hype as Eli was Andrew Luck........who was drafted by a team who was QB-centric and had made the playoffs for like a decade straight prior to their one tank season.......so Luck had no reason to opt out.  If Darnold, Rosen and Allen make it from pre-season hype to top-o'-the-draft status and Buff/Clev have them in their crosshairs then expect their agents to try to dictate terms and 29 other teams lined up to take them off the Bills hands.  And of course.......expect Bills fans to be outraged...... and then thrilled with the trade return for someone who didn't want to play in Buffalo. They had no choice! Cool until it starts happening more than one time in the past 20 years i am not going to stress about some fictional agent powerplay   Allen has a way to go as prospect.......good athlete with a big arm.......field vision, questionable........we shall see.........but QB's near the top of the draft board........they haven't really had to make that Buffalo/Cleveland decision for a long time.......and things have changed. Sure because the QBs have not had bad teams at the too of the drafts. Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 This. The offseason is a world away. Â Yep, the season is pretty far off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000830336/article/uclas-mora-doesnt-believe-josh-rosen-will-enter-2018-draft  I think he and others who are Jr.s might wait to see what the draft order is before declaring. I will say it again, I want Baker Mayfield. I know Lincoln Riley is going to work with him on a few more pro specific things this year. I feel the kid could be the next Favre and I think he would excel in our WCO.  Please God no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 How about Cam Newton going to a crap organization in a crappy, small-market town? He didn't make a peep. Funny how top pick money helps that :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSNBDSC Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) I think they draft Mason Rudolph  http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3116407/mason-rudolph Edited August 17, 2017 by tsnbd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just no to Sam. Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Rosen has put himself on Radar for his attitude. Some players allegedly don't like him, he has a primadona attitude and has mouthed off in the press a couple times including recently. Â As the video says, he might be the next Eli Manning including the fact he gets streaky. That said, Mayfields only two knocks are a little more accuracy on the deep ball and his one issue of actually being a drunk college student lol. I loved Barry Switzers comment "My QB's wouldn't have been caught" LMAO. Â Although Bradford got hurt, he came back and went #1. Too bad it was with the Rams and they nearly got him killed and essentially ruined his career. This is why I think the top guys are now going to possibly hold off. If they see the Jets #1, I know I sure as hell wouldn't come out. :-) Yes but the draft order doesent mean they would necessarily go in that order , a lot of teams will be moving up and down the draft board , for all we know Denver or Arizona could move all the way up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 With all the McBeane regime talk about character it's tough to believe they'd take Rosen. Exactly. Thinking Allen is the guy we target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 It sounds like there's a crowd of QBs that could be drafted in the 1st round. If we end up in the top 10, I wouldn't be shocked if we didn't end up trading our other 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
145B4IDIE Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Kelly was a real angel off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Rosen reminds me of Jeff George, in every aspect.Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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