Dragonborn10 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 As has been said by me and others, if it is the Patriots it is a great move. If it is the Bills it is a bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 More brilliant insight from two guys who cover more three or more sports on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I've watched that show about 5 times and every time, Kornheiser waves that flag thing at the end of the show. Why does he do that?i believe it's the Canadian flag and he says "Good night, Canada" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 More brilliant insight from two guys who cover more three or more sports on a daily basis. More brilliant analysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5X-3KvmGGM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 From what most around here believe, they didn't give up enough for the first ballot Elite HOFer. Maybe the Rams will have to pay for a new Bust for his wing in Canton when he finishes his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) More brilliant analysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5X-3KvmGGM Didn't Greg Jennings say he wouldn't have done the trade? Not because of the talent level, but, for the Rams because the injury history along with not having a quarterback that can get him the ball, and it's his walk year. Edited August 15, 2017 by Captain Murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Well that settles everything. Do we know what Skip Bayless, Lebatard's dad and Sarah spain think yet? Crucial info there that would shape my opinion. We need to hear those voices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Drafting Watkins wasn't building through the draft? And if they don't spend the money on Watkins (or Taylor, who we'll cut when we draft our Azor Ahai QB next draft), who are they going to spend it on? Free Agents? Is that option C? Dumping elite talent for no good reason isn't the way to build a winner in the NFL. They are going to spend it on the franchise QB they are going to get using the draft picks they traded for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 In today's Pardon the Interruption Sow (PTI is an ESPN hot stove argument show which I probably like cause Wilbon and I went to the Jesuit H.S) on of the discussion pieces was a rare dip into the Buffalo pro sports team pool. They discussed in this short segment whether trading Watkins made sense. They concluded no because: A: Its a win now league and Sammy recovered from injury is gonna be more productive than his replacement. They heralded Watkins achievements during his brief healthy time and theorized that even the threat he poses likely makes the O and his fellow WRs more productive players. B. The key to the Bills being better is trusting the process and given that over the last decade and a half plus shows that the ownership has been insufficient to run a process which can win. Unfortunately, I think they might be right. Stocking up draft choices might be fun for us armchair GMs, but there is no evidence to indicate the process will work. Sadly. The fact that they don't like it makes it an even better trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 We keep Watkins.." why would you pay that much to Watkins!? Injury prone and no good QB to get him the ball!!" We trade Watkins..." bad move! He's productive when he's healthy and keep defenses on their heels which helps other offensive playmakers out!! Armchair GM's don't win in this league and draft picks don't always pan out! Disaster!" Dang if you do dang if you don't. Sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Wrong again. Your on a hot streak there Beane. That's your opinion Scott. We will have to let this thing play out. Sammy wasn't resigning here. Give me the ammo to go potentially end this nightmare. Sammy wasn't winning this team a SuperBowl...a franchise QB can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Just about 90% of non Buffalo Bills fans think the we made a horrible move for what we gave up to acquire Watkins. I have tried to think through this trade on every angle and cannot come up with one way to support it at all since it was made last week. It was a flat out bad/stupid trade. Right up there with the Eagles giving us McCoy for Kiko. Watkins for Gaines WTF? Even the Pats gave up a first for Cooks... SMH Well Cooks is better than Sammy so, yeah, makes sense why a team would give up the 32nd pick for him. If the Rams bottom out and have the worst record in the league. That second round pick will be... you guessed it 33rd overall. Let not make it sound like the Pats gave up a top pick here. As has been said by me and others, if it is the Patriots it is a great move. If it is the Bills it is a bad move.It's easier to back the decision of a team that wins oppose to a team who continuously loses. I mean, in the real world would you listen to a financial adviser who consistently makes his clients money or a guy who had had a track record of 17 years in the red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 That's your opinion Scott. We will have to let this thing play out. Sammy wasn't resigning here. Give me the ammo to go potentially end this nightmare. Sammy wasn't winning this team a SuperBowl...a franchise QB can! Don't worry about grumpy smurf, he always a negative Nancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Don't worry about grumpy smurf, he always a negative Nancy. New here. Thanks for the heads up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 There are so many of these sports shows now that they are running out of food. They'll be eating their own leg pretty soon. Overexposure makes the product bleh and it has happened in nearly all media/entertainment, including football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 About the best you could expect for a wr with a vast injury history on the last year of a contract. A high 2nd rd pick and a starting caliber cb. Matthews helps mitigate the loss in the short term. His game matches the scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) There could be tons of reasons to move him... injury risk, expiring contract and reluctance to use franchise tag, wants too much money, doesn't want to play here, selfish and doesn't care about winning, diva attitude, not a hard worker, clashes with fans, clashes with media, drama etc... I've never met the guy sooooo it's hard to say what impression he left on beanie and McDermott. That's what makes this trade so confusing. At face value, it was an awful decision. But if any or all of those variables you propose are true, it would be great to know. Without that data, this is a terrible decision because most of those variables would have been answered this season, Risk Free! Ride it out on a guy we know is really good. Edited August 15, 2017 by leonbus23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 New here. Thanks for the heads up! No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Now this is funny Well that settles everything. Do we know what Skip Bayless, Lebatard's dad and Sarah spain think yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I seriously doubt either one could name five guys on the team without a lot of head scratching and wrong guesses. They're covering all sports, so their knowledge and analysis is a mile wide and an inch deep. Ask them when Sammy's first injury as a pro was or how many games he averages per season. Without even debating the trade in this post, these guys' opinions are less informed than most of the posters here. No...they cover the NBA, college basketball, SEC football, more NBA, the Dallas Cowboys, the New England Patriots, even more NBA, and the Boston Red Sox. While these guys *claim* to cover everything, they probably haven't paid attention to the Bills since the Music City Miracle. I used to watch that show a lot, but when their ticker once included 8 straight NBA-related topics, I started to stay away from it. I didn't see it yesterday, but if they just focused on how the Bills traded away two high draft picks for almost nothing, then they didn't evaluate the trade. The Bills got draft picks back. They got some value for a good WR that has been injured a lot, when we knew they weren't going to extend his contract and will be free agent. They got back a CB who is good in a zone-style scheme (like McDermott's) and traded a man-to-man CB who hadn't yet bought into the defensive scheme. They got a WR who - while hasn't yet shown his potential - can be really good. Did I mention they got a draft pick or two? They have six draft picks in the first three rounds next year. SIX. Try and tell me they don't have leverage to do whatever the hell they want, despite how they perform on the field this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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