Roundybout Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Losing a few mil in cap space is hardly a financially irresponsible decision, especially if there are better players who you can keep ahead of him. Teams all across the NFL are going to cut players who cost them cap space in the coming weeks. That's life in the NFL. we took him high last year, and he looked phenomenal before the knee. He won't be cut. We need depth everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4merper4mer Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 we took him high last year, and he looked phenomenal before the knee. He won't be cut. We need depth everywhere. He looked phenomenal. To Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) he had one nice play where he flowed across the line to the backfield and TFL. < POSITIVE > Got beat to the edge at least once. <SPECIFIC TO ONE PLAY> Looked ok in coverage <POSTIVE> Slipped on another run up the middle and recovered for a tackle but after the first down. <SPECIFIC TO ONE PLAY> Two decent gains allowed where it looked like he was supposed be they guy there for the stop.<SPECIFIC TO TWO PLAYS> This was against the bottom of the opposing 90. < GENERALIZING > He has a looooong way to go. i dont recall the person he was covering getting a single catch, basically you are saying anytime minnesota gained some yards and he was on the field it was his faultPbomb- I commented on specifically 4 plays. And stated I thought he did well in coverage and had a tackle for a loss. The mistakes against inferior pedigreed players indicate he's got a long way to go, as his coach and D.C. Have confirmed. Is there a chance you were meaning to respond to another post? Edited August 11, 2017 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Losing a few mil in cap space is hardly a financially irresponsible decision, especially if there are better players who you can keep ahead of him. Teams all across the NFL are going to cut players who cost them cap space in the coming weeks. That's life in the NFL. Yeah - we have 3 expiring contracts, and a really solid out for lorax should we want to upgrade the SAM spot. Cutting ragland now would leave us with 2 2017 rookies as the only LBs on the 2018 roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Again, backup linebackers MUST provide value on special teams, and Ragland is useless in that area. You don't keep backup linebackers who can't play special teams. No they MUST Not. You have ST players enough and your starting SAM will still play teams. So you can get away with having your BU SAM not play teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Last year McDermott Defense Started the season with 8 LBers so lets play the numbers game. 1 - Lorax - Plays Teams (Shouldn't Anymore) 2- Brown 3 - Humber 4 - Hodges - Plays Teams 5 - Vallejo - Plays Teams 6 - Milano - Plays Teams 7- Who (It will be Ragland) You are not picking the likes of Abner Logan, Carl Bradford, Jacob Lindsey, or Sam Barrington over a 2nd round pick coming off INJ that cost more to cut then keep. 8- And look at this. Who else stays but I bet it is the best ST player So How many LBers have to contribute to Teams again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Last year McDermott Defense Started the season with 8 LBers so lets play the numbers game. 1 - Lorax - Plays Teams (Shouldn't Anymore) 2- Brown 3 - Humber 4 - Hodges - Plays Teams 5 - Vallejo - Plays Teams 6 - Milano - Plays Teams 7- Who (It will be Ragland) You are not picking the likes of Abner Logan, Carl Bradford, Jacob Lindsey, or Sam Barrington over a 2nd round pick coming off INJ that cost more to cut then keep. 8- And look at this. Who else stays but I bet it is the best ST player So How many LBers have to contribute to Teams again? Not to mention - he can still be on the 53 and not dress for gamedays. That allows him to continue to practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Personally I don't think Bama players should be picked very high. They are worn out before hitting an NFL practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileena Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Did i say anywhere he wouldnt be? Yes, since you trashed a great player. He will start by the end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I am pretty confident that Ragland is gonna get it together He looks like he is in fantastic shape John! I love you man - never stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) He looked phenomenal. To Rex. Can we please, please, please stop this revisionism. Maybe you have a point against Ragland, but this one is not it. He was not simply a Rex guy, nor was he even anything remotely resembling a stretch. Maybe it's not you, but someone here has repeatedly talked about him as a 6th round talent. For crying out loud, there was not ONE mock draft that I saw that did not have him in the first round. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/reggie-ragland http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016rragland.php https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-pff-scouting-report-reggie-ragland-lb-alabama http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2015/12/30/everything-you-need-to-know-about-2016-nfl-draft-prospect-reggie-ragland/ Those were the first 4 scouting profiles that came up, pulling out a Buffalo blogger as that could be biased knowing he was a likely pick for us, and the worst one of the bunch points out in the first couple sentences that he could play in both the 4-3 and the 3-4. He might not make it (look at Aaron Curry for a higher pick LB who couldn't miss and did zero), and while it's unlikely, weird things are afoot and he may be a surprise cut. However, your repeated argument is just plainly not true. Edited August 11, 2017 by thurst44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 @KevinMassare Ragland is back with the 2s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 He won't be cut. In fact, just before OTA's it was said in an article that his coach( can't recall if it was Frazier or McD) said Reggie possessed All Pro DNA. If he doesn't start this year, so be it. But I'd have to believe that you develop that talent(or trade it), not cut it 2 months later. Because he was picked in the 2nd round doesn't mean nobody else wanted the SEC DPOY. Some people just don't get that. There is Zero advantage in cutting him at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Three snaps against the Ravens. What a waste of a second round draft pick and two fourth rounders. Dam you Rex and Whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Three snaps against the Ravens. What a waste of a second round draft pick and two fourth rounders. Dam you Rex and Whaley Bro....you might have called the biggest surprise of the 2017 cuts. I probably made fun of you when you first created this and even if he's not cut....you were still close. McDermott said yesterday that Ragland is fighting for a roster spot. Apologies on my end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I'd rather have tortellini troupe than ragland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 He once said that if the Bills didn't draft him in the 2nd, no other team would have looked at him except maybe a 6th round flyer. And he was right. Any chance now of getting thing better than a 6th round flyer in a trade for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 And he was right. Any chance now of getting thing better than a 6th round flyer in a trade for him? LOL. It still doesn't mean he was going to be a 6th round flyer in the draft. A 3-4 team needed ILB, like us, would still have taken in on day 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 No longer a surprise I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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