DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) I see so now its Crusher's "eye test" As if you had any clue of what was actually going on the field...whether it be the bills or any other team even posted the same (copy/paste) post twice. #1371/1374 just an observation is all... Edited August 17, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 any hope of getting to the line with 18 seconds on the shotclock and Tyrod reading the D and barking out Omaha and real adjustments, like real QBs do? No chance of that, sorry to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I see so now its Crusher's "eye test" As if you had any clue of what was actually going on the field...whether it be the bills or any other team You failed the Crusher eye test. Ignoring the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 You failed the Crusher eye test. Ignoring the obvious. What exactly is obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 What exactly is obvious? What he is. I stopped reading his posts months ago because imo he goes too far with his criticism. Sure we can banter with him but not much he says I take seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 What he is. I stopped reading his posts months ago because imo he goes too far with his criticism. Sure we can banter with him but not much he says I take seriously Can't argue with this. I agree with the sentiment completely. Personally, I have been coming to this board for years, mostly reading, occasionally posting, to learn about football, and the Bills. But, it's getting harder to sift through the endless, and I'll have to say, childish, back-and-forths of internet snarkiness, and cliched insult. I think it's important to ignore some posters, and Crusher would certainly fall into that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 What he is. I stopped reading his posts months ago because imo he goes too far with his criticism. Sure we can banter with him but not much he says I take seriously Gotcha...yes you are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 even posted the same (copy/paste) post twice. #1371/1374 just an observation is all... If that method of agenda peddling isn't against the Stadium Wall T&C, it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 But, yes...continue telling people how TT measures up and puts up similar numbers while people who watch clearly see the difference. Truthfully, I know this will sound harsh, but I don't think many of the TT detractors just watch much NFL football outside of the Buffalo Bills. A lot of the criticisms folks have of Taylor are valid to varying degrees, but usually not nearly to the severity some folks try to push. I think a lot of times people just run with something someone says in the media as an absolute fact without looking for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 And I'm sure the Ginger Hammer Anti Taylor rhetoric? How many times do I need to remind you to ignore those that say TT sucks Do not I repeat do not call those of us who say TT needs to improve his passing game as being Anti Taylor. He is what we know he is until he proves he can keep up with the big dogs. If you can't keep up with the big dogs you ain't going anywhere. Okay. Thanks Dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 It's cool, guys...you don't have to take what I say and believe it to be true. You will have to take it once it comes to fruition, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Truthfully, I know this will sound harsh, but I don't think many of the TT detractors just watch much NFL football outside of the Buffalo Bills. A lot of the criticisms folks have of Taylor are valid to varying degrees, but usually not nearly to the severity some folks try to push. I think a lot of times people just run with something someone says in the media as an absolute fact without looking for themselves. The problem with this post is that it labels everyone that criticizes Tyrod as a detractor. I want him to succeed, but he doesn't inspire much hope. Taylor is the definition of, "he is what he is." I've seen no progress. All of my initial concerns are still there: Gives up on routes too early Doesn't lead receivers well Ignores the middle of the field Comes up small late in games Makes limited pre-snap read Without a doubt there are a few exceptions, but that's enough for me to understand what I've got at QB. By no means does that make me a detractor, I'm just being realistic. His athletic ability can dazzle and he doesn't lose many games all on his own, but he's not a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Truthfully, I know this will sound harsh, but I don't think many of the TT detractors just watch much NFL football outside of the Buffalo Bills. A lot of the criticisms folks have of Taylor are valid to varying degrees, but usually not nearly to the severity some folks try to push. I think a lot of times people just run with something someone says in the media as an absolute fact without looking for themselves. I actually feel the opposite. I watch over 50% of games any given week and it gives me perspective on the level of QB play around the league. Week in and week out Taylor is underperforming and appears out of his element compared to the majority of quarterbacks I see. Now do I hold him to a higher standard, subconsciously, because he plays QB for my team? Sure, probably. But your argument that people who criticize Taylor don't watch enough NFL football...I mean, the majority of arguments in favor of Taylor are statistics-based, which leads me to believe it's actually the people propping his game up who're the ones not watching enough football on Sundays. If they did, they'd have to honestly evaluate him in context of week-to-week, on-field, highly-subjective-but-nonetheless-immediately-apparent-to-anyone-who's-watched-football-for-any-length-of-time analysis and conclude he just doesn't get it done outside a statistical context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Truthfully, I know this will sound harsh, but I don't think many of the TT detractors just watch much NFL football outside of the Buffalo Bills. A lot of the criticisms folks have of Taylor are valid to varying degrees, but usually not nearly to the severity some folks try to push. I think a lot of times people just run with something someone says in the media as an absolute fact without looking for themselves. Be as harsh as you like...I haven't taken any of your posts seriously since BBMB time. FWIW though...you are way off base, and you should probably stick to only posting one awful take at a time. After all..wreckless posting must be done in moderation. Oh, and Peterman already appears to be more of a QB than TT. Don't be surprised to see him push Taylor the rest of camp. Edited August 18, 2017 by Crusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Truthfully, I know this will sound harsh, but I don't think many of the TT detractors just watch much NFL football outside of the Buffalo Bills. A lot of the criticisms folks have of Taylor are valid to varying degrees, but usually not nearly to the severity some folks try to push. I think a lot of times people just run with something someone says in the media as an absolute fact without looking for themselves. Dumb take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Truthfully, I know this will sound harsh, but I don't think many of the TT detractors just watch much NFL football outside of the Buffalo Bills. A lot of the criticisms folks have of Taylor are valid to varying degrees, but usually not nearly to the severity some folks try to push. I think a lot of times people just run with something someone says in the media as an absolute fact without looking for themselves. This is just as bad as what you complain about with posters like crusher. You two are made for each other. You have always started a bunch of threads about TT using exactly what you are complaining about. Look what Cain Fahey decided to post it makes TT sound good - let me start a thread. The facts remain exactly as they have been for over 2 years now - TT is a very average to below average QB. You have used everything from combining his rushing yards to using rushing attempts to push how many pass attempts TT has, but in the end it is always the same. TT can make some very limited throws, but he is not good enough to be a long term starter. will he start the season for the Bills - Yes. Will he finish the season for the Bills - Probably Not. Many of us watch the Bills along with as many other games on Sunday and Monday that we can. Some of us additionally watch other games we taped or have on game pass. I know what a good QB looks like and TT has not been that over 2 seasons as a starter and I do not expect much this year. I didn't before the Sammy trade and I don't now. But you can take these stupid posts like this and stuff them because in the end - you and Crusher are exactly the same just opposite ends of TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I actually feel the opposite. I watch over 50% of games any given week and it gives me perspective on the level of QB play around the league. Week in and week out Taylor is underperforming and appears out of his element compared to the majority of quarterbacks I see. Now do I hold him to a higher standard, subconsciously, because he plays QB for my team? Sure, probably. But your argument that people who criticize Taylor don't watch enough NFL football...I mean, the majority of arguments in favor of Taylor are statistics-based, which leads me to believe it's actually the people propping his game up who're the ones not watching enough football on Sundays. If they did, they'd have to honestly evaluate him in context of week-to-week, on-field, highly-subjective-but-nonetheless-immediately-apparent-to-anyone-who's-watched-football-for-any-length-of-time analysis and conclude he just doesn't get it done outside a statistical context. careful, I said exactly this earlier today and got roasted for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Before the TT hater's come out of the woodwork...just make sure you also bring up the horrible OL play If you want TT to stay in the pocket....he needs to be protected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Before the TT hater's come out of the woodwork...just make sure you also bring up the horrible OL play If you want TT to stay in the pocket....he needs to be protected The crux of the matter. Good post JfH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Be as harsh as you like...I haven't taken any of your posts seriously since BBMB time. FWIW though...you are way off base, and you should probably stick to only posting one awful take at a time. After all..wreckless posting must be done in moderation. Oh, and Peterman already appears to be more of a QB than TT. Don't be surprised to see him push Taylor the rest of camp. Peterman looked pretty good tonight Against backups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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