87168 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) A reference to him as "batty" is a derogatory word for gay originating from the Caribbean. ...my lord. culturally, it means insane, or nuts. otherwise, I can't wait to see Gilmore get exposed this season Edited August 1, 2017 by 87168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) And since when is Edelman a star?! The short-answer to that is, 'since Brady & Belichick made him one'... In NE's system Edelman IS a star... Edelman had more catches last year than a lot of tier-1 WR's... Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, and Jordy Nelson to name a few... He nearly doubled what Martellus Bennett's caught last year without breaking a sweat... Edelman is an extremely versatile athlete, that gives his team options they wouldn't have with a standard slot WR... No lie. Edited August 1, 2017 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Let's do some math to figure out who appears to be more valuable to the Patriots. Edelman gets a 2 year extension this year for $11.5m with $5m signing bonus and guaranteed salary this year of $3m. Can earn some other chump change for roster bonuses, etc., but will just keep it simple for now. Basically, they could cut him next year and they would get back $3.5m in cap space after having spent $8.0m.Gilmore's deal was 5 years for $65m. $18m signing bonus with another $22m in guaranteed salary for total guarantees of $40m. Cut him and his cap hit next year would be $22.9m.To suggest that somehow Edelman is a "star" and that Gilmore would be at risk at all to be let go is disingenuous at best. At worst, it's just a massive failure to grasp the reality of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Let's do some math to figure out who appears to be more valuable to the Patriots. Edelman gets a 2 year extension this year for $11.5m with $5m signing bonus and guaranteed salary this year of $3m. Can earn some other chump change for roster bonuses, etc., but will just keep it simple for now. Basically, they could cut him next year and they would get back $3.5m in cap space after having spent $8.0m. Gilmore's deal was 5 years for $65m. $18m signing bonus with another $22m in guaranteed salary for total guarantees of $40m. Cut him and his cap hit next year would be $22.9m. To suggest that somehow Edelman is a "star" and that Gilmore would be at risk at all to be let go is disingenuous at best. At worst, it's just a massive failure to grasp the reality of the situation. Of course I grasp the situation... Everything you said was accurate commentary.. -Until Gilmore blows his first three coverages... I said that fat contract could be a debilitating mistake for the Pats, and I meant it... BOTH players were sent home.. That could mean very little if Gilmore fails on the field, AND becomes a polarizing figure... There at many ways to effect a "curtains" scenario besides simply cutting someone... Two things remain unknown... Whether hostilities between Gilmore/Edelman continue, and whether Gilmore can play up to expectations... I'll observe that dynamic before stating what can happen, and what can't. Edited August 1, 2017 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 i hope Gilmore makes the first tackle of his life and knocks the snot out of Edelman tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) ...my lord. culturally, it means insane, or nuts. otherwise, I can't wait to see Gilmore get exposed this season When you put the "mon" at the end it definitely sounds like the slur. Americans don't say that Edited August 1, 2017 by CNY315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 edelman isnt a star, hes a product of their offense. hes also a pompus prick, but he sure moves the chains. welker did the exact same thing, that tells me its the offensive scheme that is more important than the players. too bad they didnt break each others jaws tho, would have been a nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) edelman isnt a star, hes a product of their offense. hes also a pompus prick, but he sure moves the chains. welker did the exact same thing, that tells me its the offensive scheme that is more important than the players. too bad they didnt break each others jaws tho, would have been a nice. He's a star in that offense, and he leads all Pats wide receivers in receptions... He's just six catches shy of being tied with Antonio Brown... #4 on the receptions leaderboard behind ODB... Sure Mini-tron is part of a system, but he thrives in that system, which makes him a star in my book. That said, he probably needs to watch his back as much as anyone else on that team... The pats have been checking out slot/type WR KJ Maye... Who is similar in stature, and skill set. Edited August 1, 2017 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 He's a star. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Of course I grasp the situation... Everything you said was accurate commentary.. -Until Gilmore blows his first three coverages... I said that fat contract could be a debilitating mistake for the Pats, and I meant it... BOTH players were sent home.. That could mean very little if Gilmore fails on the field, AND becomes a polarizing figure... There at many ways to effect a "curtains" scenario besides simply cutting someone... Two things remain unknown... Whether hostilities between Gilmore/Edelman continue, and whether Gilmore can play up to expectations... I'll observe that dynamic before stating what can happen, and what can't. Gilmore is a ticking time bomb ready to blow up the inner workings of Foxboro. A one man sleeper cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Who gives a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 i hope Gilmore makes the first tackle of his life and knocks the snot out of Edelman tomorrow WIN !!! Gilmore is a ticking time bomb ready to blow up the inner workings of Foxboro. A one man sleeper cell. The yoga was a ruse then ? Who gives a crap. Inquiring Minds want to Know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Who are his people? I thought we were. Hey, I don't blame him for taking the money and going to the Super Bowl Champ.....just show a little class.....which he does not have. I wonder how he would have blended in with the Super Bowl Era Bills. Leonard Smith would have pounded him like a hammer pounds nails for some of the self-saving whiffy, pansy-a** non-tackles Gilmore pulled at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Leonard Smith would have pounded him like a hammer pounds nails for some of the self-saving whiffy, pansy-a** non-tackles Gilmore pulled at times. Theres My Boy.! Lets hope Tolbert meets him eye to eye. Geebuz i sure would love to see Dennison draw that play up for us fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Gilmore is a ticking time bomb ready to blow up the inner workings of Foxboro. A one man sleeper cell. I get the sarcasm... After watching "grumpy cat" get sa-moked by Hogan last year, I can't believe the $$$ they paid him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 He's a star. Deal with it. He is a rich player. Not a star, not yet anyway. Assuming you are talking about Gilmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) Theres My Boy.! Lets hope Tolbert meets him eye to eye. Geebuz i sure would love to see Dennison draw that play up for us fans Seriously, if I'm an OC I run some screens and quick outs to his side. Make him play defense. Break a few tackles for big gains. He is a rich player. Not a star, not yet anyway. Assuming you are talking about GilmoreEdelman Edited August 2, 2017 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Edelman I think he's a star, not like Brady, but he's a LITTLE guy giving you 100 catches a year! PLUS, he'll throw a TD pass in a pinch, PLUS he'll come out of the backfield for a 1st Down, PLUS he delivers big catches in big games, (See superbowl XLIX)... Is he a d!ck? -Yes. In fairness however, it must hurt to see a CB with ZERO accomplishments get paid like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) I like Edelman a lot.... but I am betting 2017 is it for him. Been hurt, getting older and only a $2m hit to release him after the season. Edited August 2, 2017 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I like Edelman a lot.... but I am betting 2017 is it for him. Been hurt, getting older and only a $2m hit to release him after the season. Dirtbags... That's probably why they brought in KJ Maye... There's probably more guys in that locker room creased by Gilmore's contract... Hell, I'm even creased by it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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