EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) The NFL is 100% correct NFL accuses NFLPA of victim-blaming Ezekiel Elliotts accuser http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/16/nfl-accuses-nflpa-of-shaming-ezekiel-elliotts-accuser/ Discrediting a witness does not remove guilt from the equation. But there is no proven guilt. The NFLPA wouldn't be doing there job if they aren't trying to defend the player. By discrediting a witness, they are attempting to show that testimony could likely be untruthful. This issue is when we use this form of discrediting a witness to the point where we blame them or as some do, simply allow it to act as a "valid" reason that crime was committed. This is very common back and forth language between legal representatives. If Zeke feels that she attempted to black mail him, or had meaningful discussion and Intent to do so, he should/could use that as an example of the victim being untruthful. However, idk if a crime was committed and I'm glad I'm Not the decision maker here. But if there was a crime, he should serve his imposed suspension but I can't blame him from using his legal team to defend him by these means Edit: the NFLPA should not have leaked this information if true, but instead, used it in the hearings as seen appropriate Edited August 16, 2017 by EmotionallyUnstable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 That's the issue here, the NFLPA leaking the stuff to the media to get the fans (who already have hatred for Goodell) on their side and so the fans put pressure on the league (and it's sponsors) to view the accuser as someone who is lying and untrustworthy and have the decision overturned for Elliot who will now be the victim. What should have been done is that they stay silent about it to the media (aside from just saying they will review and fight the ruling) and only bring it up during the hearing. Bit now they have the 'court of public opinion' on their side to help pressure the league into dropping it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 That's the issue here, the NFLPA leaking the stuff to the media to get the fans (who already have hatred for Goodell) on their side and so the fans put pressure on the league (and it's sponsors) to view the accuser as someone who is lying and untrustworthy and have the decision overturned for Elliot who will now be the victim. What should have been done is that they stay silent about it to the media (aside from just saying they will review and fight the ruling) and only bring it up during the hearing. Bit now they have the 'court of public opinion' on their side to help pressure the league into dropping it Well said. It isn't confirmed the source was the NFLPA but you have to imagine it was someone on Zeke's legal team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Damn, the NFL throwing haymakers at the Players Association. The NFLPA retort: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Getting ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Getting ugly Get a hobby for 2021 because there's going to be a lockout with the CBA negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Get a hobby for 2021 because there's going to be a lockout with the CBA negotiations. It certainly appears to be headed that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Get a hobby for 2021 because there's going to be a lockout with the CBA negotiations. I'm sure the lockout will coincide with our championship window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I'm sure the lockout will coincide with our championship window Final year of Josh Rosen's rookie deal. All set for success. It checks out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Get a hobby for 2021 because there's going to be a lockout with the CBA negotiations. That would be a monumental mistake as TV dollars erode and CTE grows in the fears of players and fans. Many fans will certainly leave and never come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Sounds like my union president! Gear up for a long, drawn out legal battle folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Discrediting a witness does not remove guilt from the equation. But there is no proven guilt. The NFLPA wouldn't be doing there job if they aren't trying to defend the player. By discrediting a witness, they are attempting to show that testimony could likely be untruthful. This issue is when we use this form of discrediting a witness to the point where we blame them or as some do, simply allow it to act as a "valid" reason that crime was committed. This is very common back and forth language between legal representatives. If Zeke feels that she attempted to black mail him, or had meaningful discussion and Intent to do so, he should/could use that as an example of the victim being untruthful. However, idk if a crime was committed and I'm glad I'm Not the decision maker here. But if there was a crime, he should serve his imposed suspension but I can't blame him from using his legal team to defend him by these means Edit: the NFLPA should not have leaked this information if true, but instead, used it in the hearings as seen appropriate We had first-hand evidence that the hearings with the NFL are a total joke. No notes were taken for the Rice hearing, nobody had the IQ of 56 to possibly think that a casino videotapes EVERYTHING that goes on (maybe they don't invade the privacy of your room) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Report: Ezekiel Elliott's accuser talked of leveraging sex tape http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Article/Tiffany-Thompson-discussed-blackmailing-Ezekiel-Elliott-for-mone-106211513 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 He needs to get his head out of his butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 @theMMQB DeMaurice Smith, NFLPA's Executive Director, explains to @AlbertBreer why an NFL work stoppage is likely in 2021 https://www.si.com/nfl/video/2017/08/17/demaurice-smith-nflpa-head-lockout-strike-likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Get a hobby for 2021 because there's going to be a lockout with the CBA negotiations. The players will cave on every single one of the 121 issues as always? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) @charlesrobinson #Cowboys Zeke Elliott & #NFLPA have tapped legal War Daddy Jeffrey Kessler to attack the #NFL again. It'll be nasty. Ezekiel Elliott's appeal: NFL nemesis from deflate-gate will take aim at 6-game suspension https://t.co/ZPLmYzoHnX?amp=1 Edited August 28, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Get a hobby for 2021 because there's going to be a lockout with the CBA negotiations. the players are doomed, they might never see $1,000,000 a year after this one is over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 @josinaanderson I'm told it'll be contended during Ezekiel Elliott's appeal that "virtually all of the alleged victim's injuries were outside the timeline." Also told inconsistencies b/w discipline letter & league's 178pg investigative report re what medical experts said abt injuries ptd out too. The claim is league's own medical experts don't come off as certain about time of injury in report & definitely can't assure what/who caused Gvn some records of alleged victim misrep'g truth, credibility key. Zeke camp not happy she was not interviewed by indep advisors/or commish I'm also told an issue is that Ezekiel Elliott's camp can't get full access to the investigative notes from the alleged victim's interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 A certain someone is in Dallas today, I expect a presidential pardon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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