Royale with Cheese Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I actually think Preston Brown could be solid again in a 4-3 setting. I really think he was just not comfortable ever in Ryan's defense. His best year as a Bill was his rookie year. I think he played on the outside though since Spikes was in the middle. http://m.buffalobills.com/s/30841/embeddedNewsPath?newsGuid=c6c9e391-57e5-40c7-b653-460c8a1f4daf Here's the Bills news of note for Thursday May 25th. 1 - Frazier believes Ragland could play outside Leslie Frazier: "Create some competition" Share: Bills defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier didn't have a lot to work with when it came to evaluating Reggie Ragland to see how he'd fit in Buffalo's new 4-3 scheme. All he had was training camp tape from last summer before Ragland tore his ACL. "We were going through the evaluation process and we were trying to determine where guys were so with Ragland we went back to his training camp tape and we saw some good things," Frazier said in an appearance on the John Murphy Show. Frazier and his defensive staff haven't had the opportunity to see him in a team practice period all spring, so it's allowed Preston Brown to man the middle linebacker role with the starting unit without any real competition. "He's only been able to do individual work," said Frazier of Ragland. "We haven't gotten him in any team work yet. They haven't cleared him for that. In the individual drills you can see the athletic ability. You can see the talent that's there. In the meetings you know he's a smart football player who can really try to run things. We've been impressed in the little work that he can do. It's unfortunate we can't get him in the team periods yet." When asked if Ragland could play outside should the team choose to leave Preston Brown as the team's middle backer, Frazier thought he could. "We think he could potentially play outside," Frazier said. "We have a limited sample size based on his rookie season and that was just training camp so you have to look at his college tape and project. Based on our projections we think he could play the middle linebacker position and one of the outside positions." The strong side would seem a bit more likely than the weak side, which has far greater coverage responsibilities. That's not to say that Ragland can't cover. He just might be better suited to holding the edge in the run front on the strong side. Frazier currently has Ramon Humber as his starting weak side linebacker, and said he's doing a good job. They also have a couple of other outside linebacker candidates. "We think we have some pieces in place," Frazier said. "You're always looking to create competition at the positions. We've drafted a couple of guys in Matt Milano and Tanner Vallejo and both of them have shown that they're capable of playing that outside position. We're creating some competition, but we really won't know where we are until we get to put the pads on and get into some preseason games." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 And so it begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Oh God. I believe this kid will try hard but the entire NFL passed on him except for Rex. What are the odds Rex was right and everyone else was wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 He said he thinks he might be able to play outside (as in SLB vs MLB, not necessarily WLB) if needed. Based on the film from TC and college. But he won't know for sure until they put the pads on. I agree with him... not sure why this is surprising. Oh God. I believe this kid will try hard but the entire NFL passed on him except for Rex. What are the odds Rex was right and everyone else was wrong? wrong about what? No non-first round LB has ever played anything but MLB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Oh God. I believe this kid will try hard but the entire NFL passed on him except for Rex. What are the odds Rex was right and everyone else was wrong? You act like no one would have drafted him if the Bills did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 Oh God. I believe this kid will try hard but the entire NFL passed on him except for Rex. What are the odds Rex was right and everyone else was wrong? Everyone passed on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 You act like no one would have drafted him if the Bills did not. He might have gotten drafted in later rounds as some sort of flier a team was taking but he would not have been part of any team's plan like he was with Rex. Rex had an antiquated scheme that no longer worked in the NFL. Ragland describes himself as a throwback. I have nothing against the kid....I kind of like him....but antiquated scheme throwback LBs do not typically go high in the draft. Every team passed on him. Reading between the lines, Frazier is basically saying he has no idea what to do with him. Shaq and Ragland are not really of any use and Washington's college coach rolled his eyes when he was selected. Everyone complains about Sammy and EJ, but the Rex draft is the one that set us back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) He might have gotten drafted in later rounds as some sort of flier a team was taking but he would not have been part of any team's plan like he was with Rex. Rex had an antiquated scheme that no longer worked in the NFL. Ragland describes himself as a throwback. I have nothing against the kid....I kind of like him....but antiquated scheme throwback LBs do not typically go high in the draft. Every team passed on him. Reading between the lines, Frazier is basically saying he has no idea what to do with him. Shaq and Ragland are not really of any use and Washington's college coach rolled his eyes when he was selected. Everyone complains about Sammy and EJ, but the Rex draft is the one that set us back. later rounds as a flyer? He was almost universally projected as a 1st round pick across the board. Maybe some had 2nd rd. Up until draft day. Why do you think he would have suddenly dropped down to the later rounds as a flyer? Edited May 25, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 later rounds as a flyer? He was almost universally projected as a 1st round pick across the board. Maybe some had 2nd rd. Up until draft day. Why do you think he would have suddenly dropped down to the later rounds as a flyer? And then what happened? He was a great college player that does not fit in the NFL. It is what it is. I don't want to hate on the kid so I will stay out but it was a bad pick that no other team made. It was Rex being Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 He might have gotten drafted in later rounds as some sort of flier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 And then what happened? He was a great college player that does not fit in the NFL. It is what it is. I don't want to hate on the kid so I will stay out but it was a bad pick that no other team made. It was Rex being Rex. Rex didn't pick him either. He picked Shaq. (we ARE talking about 1st Rd selections only, right??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) And then what happened? He was a great college player that does not fit in the NFL. It is what it is. I don't want to hate on the kid so I will stay out but it was a bad pick that no other team made. It was Rex being Rex. what happened? He was drafted in the 2nd round and then got hurt in TC. How does this not make him a fit for the NFL? Why do you think if the Bills didn't take him in the 2nd, that another team would not have done so? Edited May 25, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 put him in the middle. Preston is a bum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 And then what happened? He was a great college player that does not fit in the NFL. It is what it is. I don't want to hate on the kid so I will stay out but it was a bad pick that no other team made. It was Rex being Rex. Does not fit in the NFL? What makes you think he doesn't fit in the NFL? Because he wasn't taken in the 1st? He was going to be a high pick regardless if it's was the Bills or not. Does this sound like someone who can't play in the NFL? http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/reggie-ragland?id=2555169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 He might have gotten drafted in later rounds as some sort of flier a team was taking but he would not have been part of any team's plan like he was with Rex. Preston is a bum Is it me, or has this forum gotten increasingly dumber over the last couple months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Wow I needed a laugh on this rainy day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 He might have gotten drafted in later rounds as some sort of flier a team was taking but he would not have been part of any team's plan like he was with Rex. Rex had an antiquated scheme that no longer worked in the NFL. Ragland describes himself as a throwback. I have nothing against the kid....I kind of like him....but antiquated scheme throwback LBs do not typically go high in the draft. Every team passed on him. Reading between the lines, Frazier is basically saying he has no idea what to do with him. Shaq and Ragland are not really of any use and Washington's college coach rolled his eyes when he was selected. Everyone complains about Sammy and EJ, but the Rex draft is the one that set us back. Urban Meyer (you didn't know that?) said this about Washington. "He's got a defensive end skill set with a big body," Urban Meyer said Friday night on the NFL Network. "The thing he does best is rush the quarterback. He has to get much better against the run, but he's excellent against the pass." Frazier is also not saying they don't know what to do with him. He was asked if he thought Ragland could play outside and he answered the question. I really think you don't have a clue about football and complaining for the sake of complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) He might have gotten drafted in later rounds as some sort of flier a team was taking but he would not have been part of any team's plan like he was with Rex. Rex had an antiquated scheme that no longer worked in the NFL. Ragland describes himself as a throwback. I have nothing against the kid....I kind of like him....but antiquated scheme throwback LBs do not typically go high in the draft. Every team passed on him. Reading between the lines, Frazier is basically saying he has no idea what to do with him. Shaq and Ragland are not really of any use and Washington's college coach rolled his eyes when he was selected. Everyone complains about Sammy and EJ, but the Rex draft is the one that set us back. Don't both Shaq and Washington have a background in the 4-3? This is a better defense for both of them. Who had Ragland dropping in the draft? He was picked right were he was projected, late first early second. Edited May 25, 2017 by chris heff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 For sure. Preston and Reggie are more athletic than they seem. Reggie could play SLB, but I'd rather see Preston there and Reggie in the middle. He has better instincts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Is it me, or has this forum gotten increasingly dumber over the last couple months? It's due to the bbmb refugees. Not that I agree with that sentiment but it will be said none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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