Koko78 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Question - the Lanny Davis involvement really raises a lot of eyebrows. What happens if it is found that someone (some entity) paid Cohen to take a plea deal? Is that legal? I'm not suggesting the prosecutors, I am suggesting someone er, close, to Lanny Davis. IOW can Cohen accept money from a third party to take a plea that in some way benefits another party? Interesting question. I'm not sure what could happen. Cohen's plea, I presume, was found to be knowing, intelligent, and voluntary. I suppose Cohen could use a potential payoff to later reverse the conviction. Though, an interesting side note: Cohen would have been automatically disbarred upon entering a plea of guilty to a felony. As in, he is no longer an attorney. Were he to start running his mouth and violating attorney-client privileges, there is not a whole lot that could be done to him (he is already disbarred.) While nothing he says (or is derived from what he says) would ever be usable in court, as the privilege belongs to the client, not the attorney, he certainly could go make statements in the media - regardless of whether he is telling the truth. Edited August 23, 2018 by Koko78 Typo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: I wonder who is paying Lanny Davis for representing Cohen and if the fundme account is partially a smoke screen? Supposedly pro bono... uh huh, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: Just did. Dont think "new information coming to light" rises to the level of "the defendant can show a fair and just reason for requesting the withdrawal." Thats right out of the statute. He said earlier the pleas were highly suspect. I asked for facts that support that argument and he came back with a bunch of crap. Since your the legal expert feel free to take his place. Get me some facts and case law that support his position. Facts are the most important thing here. Im sure youll be able to find cases where plea deals got tossed. But do they apply here. Thats the question. His answer is absolute crap. Generalities that mean nothing. He said the plea deals where highly suspect. Based on what? Because Trump or that idiot Sara Sanders said so? Good luck makibg that argument. So you make a stupid statement that I definitively show to be false, so now I have to prove facts of something I couldn't care less about to your satisfaction? !@#$ off with this nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: So you make a stupid statement that I definitively show to be false, so now I have to prove facts of something I couldn't care less about to your satisfaction? !@#$ off with this nonsense. Because you cant. Typical Trumptard. Enjoy the impeachment proceedings and the resignation. Its gonna be great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: Because you cant. Typical Trumptard. Enjoy the impeachment proceedings and the resignation. Its gonna be great. You need to clearly demonstrate facts of Trump being impeached to my satisfaction. Be sure to provide primary sources in your research. Go ahead, I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: Because you cant. Typical Trumptard. Enjoy the impeachment proceedings and the resignation. Its gonna be great. When Trump doesn't resign, and wins 2020, will you promise to go away? ****************************** Oops. ************************ Also, worth the time to read through the sealed (now unsealed) transcripts of the Manafort trial: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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26CornerBlitz Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) A single juror in the Manafort trial prevented Manafort from being found guilty on all 18 counts says another juror in a Fox News interview. Manafort juror reveals lone holdout prevented Mueller team from convicting on all counts Edited August 23, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Koko78 said: You need to clearly demonstrate facts of Trump being impeached to my satisfaction. Be sure to provide primary sources in your research. Go ahead, I'll wait. Ill bet you will. Your dumb enough to do just that. 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: When Trump doesn't resign, and wins 2020, will you promise to go away. Like I said. Delusional Rhino. Just make sure your here when the impeachment and resignation go down. My hunch is youll be in a corner sucking your thumb hugging your Trump doll. Edited August 23, 2018 by THEHARDTRUTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: Ill bet you will. Your dumb enough to do just that. Like I said. Delusional Rhino. Just make sure your here when the impeachment and resignation go down. My hunch is youll be in a corner sucking your thumb hugging your Trump doll. Oh, the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) I keep on hearing “Lock Him Up” is the new “Lock Her Up”. Who goes to prison first; HRC or DJT? Will Manafort & Cohen avoid jail time by turning evidence over to Mueller and hope for a plea deal? What are the chances Trump speaks to Mueller and perjures himself? All questions that time will answer. Edited August 23, 2018 by Dr.Sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said: I keep on hearing “Lock Him Up” is the new “Lock Her Up”. Who goes to prison first; HRC or DJT? Will Manafort & Cohen avoid jail time by turning evidence over to Mueller and hope for a plea deal? What are the chances Trump speaks to Mueller and perjures himself? All questions that time will answer. Congratulations, you've managed to pack one hell of a lot of stupidity into this post. Too bad you can't just get rid of stupidity by posting it. It stays with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 10 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: You're wrong. There are circumstances when the plea deal can be vacated, especially when there has been malfeasance by the prosecution. You're mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: A single juror in the Manafort trial prevented Manafort from being found guilty on all 18 counts says another juror in a Fox News interview. Manafort juror reveals lone holdout prevented Mueller team from convicting on all counts If that is true, Manafort is looking at a retrial on the remaining, unconvicted, counts. The government would have to like its odds on a second go around... the judge will be more sympathetic to the prosecution, the paper trail is there... their only problem again is the scum they have testifying against scum (which was a problem the first time too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Cohen and Davis are Carnival Barking Dogs. They have no integrity in a court. They both would only be a good witness, for the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Cohen and Davis are Carnival Barking Dogs. They have no integrity in a court. They both would only be a good witness, for the defense. ????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Connecting the DOTS, is called speculation. Not fact, not evidence. and now of days, is mostly partisan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: I keep on hearing “Lock Him Up” is the new “Lock Her Up”. Who goes to prison first; HRC or DJT? Will Manafort & Cohen avoid jail time by turning evidence over to Mueller and hope for a plea deal? What are the chances Trump speaks to Mueller and perjures himself? All questions that time will answer. Should be an interesting next few months! 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: A single juror in the Manafort trial prevented Manafort from being found guilty on all 18 counts says another juror in a Fox News interview. Manafort juror reveals lone holdout prevented Mueller team from convicting on all counts The OJ trial was almost 25 years ago but I remember how the defense used sophisticated computer programs to try and identify which jurors to pick to try and find some that would never find him guilty, I'm sure this juror could have been identified in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Connecting the DOTS, is called speculation. Not fact, not evidence. and now of days, is mostly partisan. Now of days? I should lamb baste you for that but I wouldn't want to affect your self of steam. This is what the connect the dots response was referring to: "Cohen and Davis are Carnival Barking Dogs. They have no integrity in a court. They both would only be a good witness, for the defense." They are carnival barking dogs who have no integrity in court but would be good witnesses for the defense? You're new but you aren't going to get a pass for posting shitlikethat. Post stuff that makes sense or you'll get eviscerated here. Welcome to PPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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