row_33 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Nanker said: It’s hard to impeach in the USA. Need a reason for starters... i doubt you could remove a President and his Admin from office in any event, besides the next election actuslly it is easy to impeach but that doesn’t mean removal, which is what they really think they are getting with impeachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Nanker said: It’s hard to impeach in the USA. We did a voice vote to suspend an arcane rule well... 2 hours ago, row_33 said: Need a reason for starters... i doubt you could remove a President and his Admin from office in any event, besides the next election actuslly it is easy to impeach but that doesn’t mean removal, which is what they really think they are getting with impeachment I believe you missed the Dick Jauron joke he was making... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Note - Ryan ties the FBI plant to FISA abuse. Not an accident. Halper's name is going to be all over the FISA application. Another article (and why I'm revising my summary overview of the spy ring... the start date keeps moving): Quote But now comes word of the FBI informant, described in various accounts as a retired American professor living in England. The Washington Post reported that, "The professor's interactions with Trump advisers began a few weeks before the opening of the investigation, when Page met the professor at the British symposium." A few weeks before the opening of the investigation — those are the words that have raised eyebrows among Hill investigators. If it was before the investigation, then what was an FBI informant doing gathering undercover information when there was not yet an investigation? https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/when-did-trump-russia-probe-begin-investigators-focus-on-mystery-months 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Note - Ryan ties the FBI plant to FISA abuse. Not an accident. Halper's name is going to be all over the FISA application. Another article (and why I'm revising my summary overview of the spy ring... the start date keeps moving): https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/when-did-trump-russia-probe-begin-investigators-focus-on-mystery-months I'm sure that the explanation for opening the investigation earlier than what everyone thought is found in the Attkisson timeline... https://sharylattkisson.com/2018/05/20/collusion-against-trump-timeline/ 2013 - Carter Page interviewed by FBI regarding Russian contacts 2014 - Manafort first wiretap because of Russia related work 2015 - DNC computers allegedly hacked for the first time 2016 - Podesta gets hacked, Carter Page interviewed by FBI again, Manafort hired by Trump campaign (probably still being wiretapped), DNC allegedly computers hacked a second time Based on that, the FBI can make a colorable argument that something smelled funny. At least that's what I think their explanation will be. It doesn't have to be true or accurate. Just enough for people to not scratch the surface too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, snafu said: I'm sure that the explanation for opening the investigation earlier than what everyone thought is found in the Attkisson timeline... https://sharylattkisson.com/2018/05/20/collusion-against-trump-timeline/ 2013 - Carter Page interviewed by FBI regarding Russian contacts 2014 - Manafort first wiretap because of Russia related work 2015 - DNC computers allegedly hacked for the first time 2016 - Podesta gets hacked, Carter Page interviewed by FBI again, Manafort hired by Trump campaign (probably still being wiretapped), DNC allegedly computers hacked a second time Based on that, the FBI can make a colorable argument that something smelled funny. At least that's what I think their explanation will be. It doesn't have to be true or accurate. Just enough for people to not scratch the surface too much. Except that it looks worse for them in retrospect, especially with York's revelation that Comey & Lynch discussed briefing the Trump campaign about possible infiltration in March 2016. They never did that, waited, and then absent any other evidence, tried to implant a spy within the campaign. They would have a sealed & shut case if they had approached the Trump campaign in March when they got the initial suspicions, and Trump still carried on. But they didn't, and are in a big pickle now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, GG said: Except that it looks worse for them in retrospect, especially with York's revelation that Comey & Lynch discussed briefing the Trump campaign about possible infiltration in March 2016. They never did that, waited, and then absent any other evidence, tried to implant a spy within the campaign. They would have a sealed & shut case if they had approached the Trump campaign in March when they got the initial suspicions, and Trump still carried on. But they didn't, and are in a big pickle now. Is there a term for "knowing a crime is going to be committed, but deciding not to prevent it, and benefiting from the outcome?" Seems like there should be a word for that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, GG said: Except that it looks worse for them in retrospect, especially with York's revelation that Comey & Lynch discussed briefing the Trump campaign about possible infiltration in March 2016. They never did that, waited, and then absent any other evidence, tried to implant a spy within the campaign. They would have a sealed & shut case if they had approached the Trump campaign in March when they got the initial suspicions, and Trump still carried on. But they didn't, and are in a big pickle now. What I was trying to get at is that they'll trot out a relatively plausible (flimsy) excuse knowing that half the country will buy it. I agree that they bungled the "investigation" and they doubled up in trying to hide it, and tripled up in trying to explain it. As was explained to me awhile ago by someone on this board, they never thought Clinton would lose. They were arrogant, sloppy and smug. The fun part is watching them try to put out all these fires and making the conflagration grow. Soon they'll be pushing each other into the flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 HRC's former strategist calls for Mueller's probe to end, joining a growing list of democrats... why are they suddenly interested in stopping Mueller from finishing? https://ntknetwork.com/hillary-clintons-former-chief-strategist-stop-mueller/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=xorganic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: HRC's former strategist calls for Mueller's probe to end, joining a growing list of democrats... why are they suddenly interested in stopping Mueller from finishing? https://ntknetwork.com/hillary-clintons-former-chief-strategist-stop-mueller/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=xorganic Because they're suddenly realizing "Holy ****, this is how we get more Trump!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: Is there a term for "knowing a crime is going to be committed, but deciding not to prevent it, and benefiting from the outcome?" Seems like there should be a word for that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 53 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Because they're suddenly realizing "Holy ****, this is how we get more Trump!" Or some generic Republican --- seems the "blue wave" has flatlined. Generic GOP candidate up by 6. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 43 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Or some generic Republican --- seems the "blue wave" has flatlined. Generic GOP candidate up by 6. ? The Blue Wave 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, /dev/null said: The Blue Wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real News Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 5 hours ago, DC Tom said: Is there a term for "knowing a crime is going to be committed, but deciding not to prevent it, and benefiting from the outcome?" Seems like there should be a word for that sort of thing. Halp. It's a verb. Comey and Lynch inserted a halper into the campaign but it did not work. In Ocean's Seveteen or whatever number, Andy Garcia decided to be a halper for George Clooney because he hated Al Pacino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, Real News said: How does that relate to Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Noose tightens. Cohens business partner pleads guilty and agrees to testify in a state court. So no presidential pardon in a state case. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/nyregion/michael-cohen-trump-taxi-cooperation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So no presidential pardon in a state case. Wow.... just wow... out of whose a55 did this come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Real News said: Hahahahaha. Squeeze the weak link who isn’t an American and terrorize him with threats of tossing him back to PooTin to be served up as raw meat. Or serve 50 years of hard time in the WhiteHouse dungeon. Kudos Mueller. You’re a prince of virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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