KellyToughII Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I have read here, and other places, he should be canned for his bad contracts...wrong. HE didnt make contract decisions The GM's did. His job is to have the GM come to him and they say "make this work in the cap" that is it. HE didn't give Dareus an insanely stupid contract, Whaley did. Jim Overdorf is considered to be one of the best in the NFL with the cap. The Next GM needs to keep that in mind and make better decisions on who gets what and for how much, before asking Jim to make it work within the cap. Not sure why part if that is bold, but meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Dpesnt matter to me what we do with him. I just want our next GM to be better at managing the cap and drafting talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) I have read here, and other places, he should be canned for his bad contracts...wrong. HE didnt make contract decisions The GM's did. His job is to have the GM come to him and they say "make this work in the cap" that is it. HE didn't give Dareus an insanely stupid contract, Whaley did. Jim Overdorf is considered to be one of the best in the NFL with the cap. The Next GM needs to keep that in mind and make better decisions on who gets what and for how much, before asking Jim to make it work within the cap. Not sure why part if that is bold, but meh... ....sounds like a misunderstanding of Jim's role Associated Press Published: Jan. 31, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Jim Overdorf was promoted to Buffalo Bills senior vice president of football administration, giving him control over contract negotiations and salary cap decisions. The move announced Thursday was part of a minor front office restructuring that follows Russ Brandon's promotion to chief operating officer. Brandon's promotion came after the Bills elected not to fill the general manager's role after Marv Levy stepped down at the end of the season. Edited April 30, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Cousin or uncle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 its never too late to fire him for running Polian off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 its never too late to fire him for running Polian off Ha forgot about that, you're right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 its never too late to fire him for running Polian off Jeffery Littman had Polian fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam727 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I have read here, and other places, he should be canned for his bad contracts...wrong. HE didnt make contract decisions The GM's did. His job is to have the GM come to him and they say "make this work in the cap" that is it. HE didn't give Dareus an insanely stupid contract, Whaley did. Jim Overdorf is considered to be one of the best in the NFL with the cap. The Next GM needs to keep that in mind and make better decisions on who gets what and for how much, before asking Jim to make it work within the cap. Not sure why part if that is bold, but meh... This post is ridiculous. Dealing with the contract negotiations is literally Overdorf's job.... I can't tell if this post is supposed to be serious or not? Hopefully the answer is not and I just missed the sarcasm.. The worst part about today is that Overdorf still has a job at OBD.. He should have been the very first one out the door... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 This post is ridiculous. Dealing with the contract negotiations is literally Overdorf's job.... I can't tell if this post is supposed to be serious or not? Hopefully the answer is not and I just missed the sarcasm.. The worst part about today is that Overdorf still has a job at OBD.. He should have been the very first one out the door... You miss this greatly, It has to be ok'ed by the GM. No GM is going to say "here just go spend money" to someone. Jim has to tell the GM "they demand this much". Gm must say ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Bound Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 ....sounds like a misunderstanding of Jim's role Associated Press Published: Jan. 31, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Jim Overdorf was promoted to Buffalo Bills senior vice president of football administration, giving him control over contract negotiations and salary cap decisions. The move announced Thursday was part of a minor front office restructuring that follows Russ Brandon's promotion to chief operating officer. Brandon's promotion came after the Bills elected not to fill the general manager's role after Marv Levy stepped down at the end of the season. Anyone who has been involved in the contract negotiations and salary cap decisions should be sent packing. If that includes Overdorf, and it sounds like it does, then he should be gone. To change the culture you have to change the people. All of them, including good ole, Russ Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 This post is ridiculous. Dealing with the contract negotiations is literally Overdorf's job.... I can't tell if this post is supposed to be serious or not? Hopefully the answer is not and I just missed the sarcasm.. The worst part about today is that Overdorf still has a job at OBD.. He should have been the very first one out the door... The MO would be let Overdorf sign all draft picks and UDFA and then fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) ....sounds like a misunderstanding of Jim's role Associated Press Published: Jan. 31, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Jim Overdorf was promoted to Buffalo Bills senior vice president of football administration, giving him control over contract negotiations and salary cap decisions. The move announced Thursday was part of a minor front office restructuring that follows Russ Brandon's promotion to chief operating officer. Brandon's promotion came after the Bills elected not to fill the general manager's role after Marv Levy stepped down at the end of the season. The OP captured Overdorf's role accurately. Overdorf executes the wishes of the GM and ownership and advises on salary cap implications. It's not like he made the decision to give Clay or MD the contracts they got. He was advised to structure a deal with Clay that the Dolphins couldn't match, he did that. He was told to retain MD and he did that at MD's market value at the time. He was also told to create a deal that would allow us some flexibility with Tyrod and he did that as well. I thought the Tyrod deal was unique and creative comparative to what other teams have done in similar situations. Taylor situations can put teams in cap purgatory for years and he/ownership/etc avoided that. I really don't know if Overdorf is or isn't doing a good job. Nobody here does. Given his employer is the only one with any idea I'll have to side with them on this even though that's not very popular these days. Edited April 30, 2017 by KzooMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I cannot get down on Jim after Jeff was thankfully relieved of his "doodies". Smart fellow. You are not ever going to get rid of Russ. so just accept it. lie to yourself if need be folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I have read here, and other places, he should be canned for his bad contracts...wrong. HE didnt make contract decisions The GM's did. His job is to have the GM come to him and they say "make this work in the cap" that is it. HE didn't give Dareus an insanely stupid contract, Whaley did. Jim Overdorf is considered to be one of the best in the NFL with the cap. The Next GM needs to keep that in mind and make better decisions on who gets what and for how much, before asking Jim to make it work within the cap. Not sure why part if that is bold, but meh... How do you know this? Pure guesswork, correct? Dpesnt matter to me what we do with him. I just want our next GM to be better at managing the cap and drafting talent. I want all the dead wood out. Not sure whether or not that includes Overdorf and I don't think anyone outside the organization can be any surer than I am. But yeah, the GM is more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I love how the bills have "one of the best" across the board... but just cant find success because if things like the ryans parachuting in from nowhere, and not being lucky enough to have a franchise (or competent) quarterback fall into their laps for 2 decades. Up until now, whaley was "one of the best" talent evaluators. People would tell me he would have another gm gig immediately (same thing people said about darcy regier). Now it seems he has few fans left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) I listened to Pegula's press conference and came away thinking Overforf's tenure with the Bills is very much on shaky ground. Pegula said something to the effect of "we will do everything we can to fight for Overdorf, but ultimately that decision will come down to the next GM". Basically he gave himself an out, that if and when they release Overdorf it will be because the next GM made that decision, as he should. Not having language in Dareus' contract that protected the team from future guarantees if he failed future drug tests was an offense worthy of firing.....and Iay that at the feet of Overdorf. I wouldn't be surprised to see Scott Berchtold let go as well now that they have the new guy from Philly. The only guy who might be left standing will be Russ. I think Russ is the only human on earth that will survive nuclear war. Edited May 1, 2017 by Estro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 its never too late to fire him for running Polian off Ralph did it for he insulted his daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Overdorf is gone when the new GM is in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Overdorf is gone when the new GM is in place. Yeah, maybe. Terry said in his PC it was up to the new GM, that Terry would try to support Overdorf but it was up to the new guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Ralph did it for he insulted his daughter. As I heard the story it was that polian told her that he would see her next Tuesday. And that was that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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