KellyToughII Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Indeed. I hope that they stick with that. Someone needs to be in charge. I'd rather it were the GM but that isn't going to happen so it better be the Coach. I agree completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Hopefully they aren't scouts fresh out of the Academy... https://www.scoutingacademy.com/ If I can turn $750 into a scouting gig, I'm all in. I know a few people that have graduated from there and a couple currently studying. Something I'm hoping to do at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 IIRC they were in Philly together Correct. Banner was there McD's entire Philly career, so I'd think he'd know better. Of course, Banner's best years as Eagles President were when Reid was running the football side of things and Banner was only running the business side. But Banner started to get more involved in football ops when Reid was ousted. I highly doubt that Banner would be happy staying strictly on the business side, which he did not show any talent for. If McD wants a good business guy who's lousy at football ops, but will almost certainly try to meddle in them, then he's better off keeping Russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I know a few people that have graduated from there and a couple currently studying. Something I'm hoping to do at some point. You doing a pretty damn good job of it now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I know a few people that have graduated from there and a couple currently studying. Something I'm hoping to do at some point. What does an entry level scout make and eventually aspire to salary wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) You doing a pretty damn good job of it now! You're very kind but I'm not nearly smart enough to even consider applying for a place there yet. The chance to build a rapport with guys that have NFL ties would be a nice thing to have though. Pretty sure they have over a dozen international students this year, including 4 from Brazil. What does an entry level scout make and eventually aspire to salary wise? I've seen low-end figures in the region of $40-50,000 a year up to low 6 figures for scouting positions, depending on experience/seniority. It sounds like a depressingly lonely job as well, I'm made for it Kirby would know better than I do though. They also prep guys for college positions. Alex Brown is one of their graduates, former writer for Optimum Scouting - http://www.uhcougars.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/alex_brown_1020882.html Edited May 9, 2017 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 John, please don't tell me you are going to continue with the "wrestling coach" nonsense ad nauseum. What's your problem with it? Why do you take it as a negative? Weren't you one of the fellows who found Rex's braggadocio act to be a refreshing change of pace and very endearing for this boring franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) What does an entry level scout make and eventually aspire to salary wise?it is a ton of hours and a ton of travel for not that much money for college and area scouts. They may be 1/4 bonus check to 1/2.Eventually a pro scout will make six figures and as you move up to director of college scouting, director of player personnel, etc it is in the 300-500k range with full bonus checks for playoffs (sometimes same as player bonus). SB bonus can really add up. AGM 700k or so. GM 1 mill+ Scouts on up all get either a car or monthly car allowance. Most take the allowance so they have a way to get home when they are fired. Edited May 9, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 it is a ton of hours and a ton of travel for not that much money for college and area scouts. They may be 1/4 bonus check to 1/2.Eventually a pro scout will make six figures and as you move up to director of college scouting, director of player personnel, etc it is in the 300-500k range with full bonus checks for playoffs (sometimes same as player bonus). SB bonus can really add up. AGM 700k or so. GM 1 mill+ Scouts on up all get either a car or monthly car allowance. Most take the allowance so they have a way to get home when they are fired. Thanks! You're very kind but I'm not nearly smart enough to even consider applying for a place there yet. The chance to build a rapport with guys that have NFL ties would be a nice thing to have though. Pretty sure they have over a dozen international students this year, including 4 from Brazil. I've seen low-end figures in the region of $40-50,000 a year up to low 6 figures for scouting positions, depending on experience/seniority. It sounds like a depressingly lonely job as well, I'm made for it Kirby would know better than I do though. They also prep guys for college positions. Alex Brown is one of their graduates, former writer for Optimum Scouting - http://www.uhcougars.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/alex_brown_1020882.html And Thanks! It does sound pretty lonely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Well reality is, like it or not (and I do) this is McDermott's show now. It doesnt matter what structure fans want or think we should ha e, it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 No, which is why I don't like or agree with how Pegula is running things. He may be right and this works out. I really hope it does. i just disagree. Many of us prefer a strong GM who has full control of the team, including hiring the coach. It has worked in New England and I am in no one comparing Belichick with McDermott. I really think that it depends the situation as to whether it works one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 it is a ton of hours and a ton of travel for not that much money for college and area scouts. They may be 1/4 bonus check to 1/2.Eventually a pro scout will make six figures and as you move up to director of college scouting, director of player personnel, etc it is in the 300-500k range with full bonus checks for playoffs (sometimes same as player bonus). SB bonus can really add up. AGM 700k or so. GM 1 mill+ Scouts on up all get either a car or monthly car allowance. Most take the allowance so they have a way to get home when they are fired. ....good show bud....I'd say that is an accurate assessment......probably a regionalized structure so folks can work out of their homes and cut down on travel costs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 What's your problem with it? Why do you take it as a negative? Weren't you one of the fellows who found Rex's braggadocio act to be a refreshing change of pace and very endearing for this boring franchise? I think Rex the personality is entertaining. Not so much Rex the coach. But back on topic, I find nothing amusing, clever, or indicative of McD's coaching ability by referring to him as the "wrestling coach." And it's Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I think Rex the personality is entertaining. Not so much Rex the coach. But back on topic, I find nothing amusing, clever, or indicative of McD's coaching ability by referring to him as the "wrestling coach." ...naw the "refugee" references take the cake.....the "giant little pinheads" need their own forum......appropriately named INSULTS where they can fight it out and we can discuss football....good Lord, this crap gets old..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 ....good show bud....I'd say that is an accurate assessment......probably a regionalized structure so folks can work out of their homes and cut down on travel costs.....yes most college scouts live in other areas than the team they work for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Beane officially hired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 they hired Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 We might need a refresher on this thread in 2 years when we reach for a new GM/COACH team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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