26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 @theMMQB In Buffalo, a Broken Organization. 3 years into Pegulas' reign, they've yet to start building a team. @AlbertBreer https://t.co/cqd7eprEtj And over the weeks leading into the draft, McDermott’s growing influence became obvious to all inside the building. The new coach was empowered to pull prospects off the board who didn’t fit the character parameters he was looking for. With a GM left in limbo, it was increasingly the coach’s show. And while McDermott wasn’t running the draft, nothing was happening without his O.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I am going to go out on a limb and say that most of the people posting have never owned a business, one that does seven figures a year plus, AND call me crazy but probably not one worth north of a Billion. Owners can do what they want and good ones know how to play high stakes poker. Pegs played it the only smart way. He has known for awhile Doug was out, he just wasn't going to tell you or anyone else because then his cards are on display. Whaley could have done some real damage if canned before the draft. Pegs wasn't going to let that happen. It has been obvious since the Rex firing, Doug was out of the loop. As I have said all along I want the chef buying the groceries and the running the show, apparently Pegs does too. In today's NFL a lot of teams (winning teams at that) are going in this direction. Pegs is an analyst by nature and he sees what works. McD seems like a guy that Pegs understands. Someone who is all about process and method, not emotion and flash. McD will have a competive team this Year and surprise some folks. Playoffs might be a stretch given the tough sledding in December but by year 3 watch out. Brady will be done and The Bills will be a solid young team ready to contend Year in and Year out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Mixed feelings. Clearly Doug was on the hot seat. And I can understand the logic of making the move now since it allowed the draft to be completed. But I now find it difficult if not impossible to trust the words of the HC and owners since up till today all the language was how they worked together well etc. The Pegulas match my personality. I am the type who is very patient, but when I reach my limit that's that. They reached their limit with both teams and bam- decisions are made. But if I'm a candidate for any of the openings, my question would have to be How do I trust your word based on the endorsements given to folks who are then canned shortly thereafter? They will get good people for the openings. They are willing to put financial and other resources behind whomever they hire. And willing to give some time for results. But I'd have some hard questions. As for the never ending Russ posts, if you wind up attending the amateur hockey tournaments, frozen four, March Madness, etc and enjoy them, you can thank Russ for some of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Damn...the Bills War Room had to be on pins and needles for the last couple of weeks. And over the weeks leading into the draft, McDermott’s growing influence became obvious to all inside the building. The new coach was empowered to pull prospects off the board who didn’t fit the character parameters he was looking for. With a GM left in limbo, it was increasingly the coach’s show. And while McDermott wasn’t running the draft, nothing was happening without his O.K. Edited April 30, 2017 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) "Blown picks of EJ Manuel and over-paying to trade up for oft-injured Sammy Watkinsand botching the contract with Tyrod Taylor and throwing ridiculous money at mercurial Marcell Dareus kept the front office in a perilous plight, and the longer McDermott had to contemplate this roster and assess the contractual mishaps and salary-cap issues, the clearer it became he wouldn't be working with Whaley for long. "Losing top corner Stephon Gilmore in free agency, to the hated Patriots, no less, did not set well with the new head coach, but he inherited too many other bad contracts to truly compete. The Taylor affair was unnecessarily difficult, given the bizarre structure agreed to a year ago (before the new coach arrived) and the heavy-handed tactics the front office took with Taylor late last season. Then, for the second year in a row, the Bills put too low a free-agent tender on an emerging skill player, and for the second straight year the Pats plucked him away, with Mike Gillislee joining Chris Hogan as part of the New England dynasty. Time was getting short for Whaley."....NFL CBS Edited April 30, 2017 by JM2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Good for the Bills. I love how the PR department really doesn't have to do so much work. The Pegula's are making it easy on their employees. All they do is send the same statement every time, change the position, names, and switch Bills or Sabres. Good business model, saves them from paying the PR department guys to much for making new statements. This was a good move but the never ending story of rebuilding is getting exhausting in both the "Hockey" and "Football" operations. It was good for Pegula to buy the Bills to keep them in Buffalo, however he is not a very good owner of sports teams. Hopefully McD will make it three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Mixed feelings. Clearly Doug was on the hot seat. And I can understand the logic of making the move now since it allowed the draft to be completed. But I now find it difficult if not impossible to trust the words of the HC and owners since up till today all the language was how they worked together well etc. The Pegulas match my personality. I am the type who is very patient, but when I reach my limit that's that. They reached their limit with both teams and bam- decisions are made. But if I'm a candidate for any of the openings, my question would have to be How do I trust your word based on the endorsements given to folks who are then canned shortly thereafter? They will get good people for the openings. They are willing to put financial and other resources behind whomever they hire. And willing to give some time for results. But I'd have some hard questions. As for the never ending Russ posts, if you wind up attending the amateur hockey tournaments, frozen four, March Madness, etc and enjoy them, you can thank Russ for some of that. This was long overdue, and reports are that Overdorf could be gone soon also. Good for the Bills. I love how the PR department really doesn't have to do so much work. The Pegula's are making it easy on their employees. All they do is send the same statement every time, change the position, names, and switch Bills or Sabres. Good business model, saves them from paying the PR department guys to much for making new statements. This was a good move but the never ending story of rebuilding is getting exhausting in both the "Hockey" and "Football" operations. It was good for Pegula to buy the Bills to keep them in Buffalo, however he is not a very good owner of sports teams. Hopefully McD will make it three years. The housecleaning should have happened when Pegulas bought the team. Long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 "Blown picks of EJ Manuel and over-paying to trade up for oft-injured Sammy Watkinsand botching the contract with Tyrod Taylor and throwing ridiculous money at mercurial Marcell Dareus kept the front office in a perilous plight, and the longer McDermott had to contemplate this roster and assess the contractual mishaps and salary-cap issues, the clearer it became he wouldn't be working with Whaley for long. "Losing top corner Stephon Gilmore in free agency, to the hated Patriots, no less, did not set well with the new head coach, but he inherited too many other bad contracts to truly compete. The Taylor affair was unnecessarily difficult, given the bizarre structure agreed to a year ago (before the new coach arrived) and the heavy-handed tactics the front office took with Taylor late last season. Then, for the second year in a row, the Bills put too low a free-agent tender on an emerging skill player, and for the second straight year the Pats plucked him away, with Mike Gillislee joining Chris Hogan as part of the New England dynasty. Time was getting short for Whaley."....NFL CBS Pretty accurate and straightforward. I would add the constant reports of rift between him and the hcs, along with Fred Jackson report that Whaley was dishonest with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 This was long overdue, and reports are that Overdorf could be gone soon also. The housecleaning should have happened when Pegulas bought the team. Long overdue. Totally agree. On both operations. Brandon is the last piece to get the boot to completely change the culture of Buffalo Hockey and Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Totally agree. On both operations. Brandon is the last piece to get the boot to completely change the culture of Buffalo Hockey and Football. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 around page 25 i think. IMO When a thread is merged it relieves you of all responsibility to go back and read and try to make some semblance or order to all that goes before. Just respond off the OP and go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Pretty accurate and straightforward. I would add the constant reports of rift between him and the hcs, along with Fred Jackson report that Whaley was dishonest with him. I cannot respect a GM that said EJ had the "it" factor and wanted Tyrod Taylor of the team. Inept at QB evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 @AdamSchefter Bills not alone. Colts releasing director of college scouting T.J. McCreight and others from scouting department, per league sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Better late than never. This is the best thing to happen for our team in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I will say one thing for Terry Pegula: he does have a learning curve. At least this time he scheduled a press conference and took questions saying it was his decision to fire Doug instead of sending Coach McWrestler out by himself to face the press and say it wasn't his decision to fire Doug. http://buffalonews.com/2017/04/30/said-transcript-terry-pegulas-comments-firing-bills-gm-doug-whaley/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 @theMMQB In Buffalo, a Broken Organization. 3 years into Pegulas' reign, they've yet to start building a team. @AlbertBreer https://t.co/cqd7eprEtj They are now building the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Josh ReedVerified account @4JoshReed 26s27 seconds ago Q: Was Whaley involved in the draft decisions or did Sean do his own thing? Ex #Bills scout: Doug ran the draft *backs up Pegula presser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Josh ReedVerified account @4JoshReed 26s27 seconds ago Q: Was Whaley involved in the draft decisions or did Sean do his own thing? Ex #Bills scout: Doug ran the draft *backs up Pegula presser What does "run the draft" mean? Whaley might have but McDermott made the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 When Overdorf is gone I will feel much better. Interesting news coming out that Whaley was the only guy on not on board with Tyrod. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I am going to go out on a limb and say that most of the people posting have never owned a business, one that does seven figures a year plus, AND call me crazy but probably not one worth north of a Billion. Owners can do what they want and good ones know how to play high stakes poker. Pegs played it the only smart way. He has known for awhile Doug was out, he just wasn't going to tell you or anyone else because then his cards are on display. Whaley could have done some real damage if canned before the draft. Pegs wasn't going to let that happen. It has been obvious since the Rex firing, Doug was out of the loop. As I have said all along I want the chef buying the groceries and the running the show, apparently Pegs does too. In today's NFL a lot of teams (winning teams at that) are going in this direction. Pegs is an analyst by nature and he sees what works. McD seems like a guy that Pegs understands. Someone who is all about process and method, not emotion and flash. McD will have a competive team this Year and surprise some folks. Playoffs might be a stretch given the tough sledding in December but by year 3 watch out. Brady will be done and The Bills will be a solid young team ready to contend Year in and Year out. Agreed except I expect to have a poor record this year, to which there are a bunch of QBs we can land next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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