JohnC Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I can't see a way to see a first round QB in Lamar Jackson. He is obviously a better thrower than Tebow but he would be a bit like Tebow going in the 1st to me. I respectfully disagree. As the examining process goes on I'm confident that he will go up the ranks. There is no disputing that he has a long way to go before his game is refined enough for the pro ranks. But the starting point is having the raw materials, and the next step is to mold that material. Gunner, as time goes by I'm confident that you will be jumping on the same bus that I am riding on. I'm not saying that he is going to be your favorite prospect but what I'm sure of is that an open-minded person like you will be receptive to the evidence that will be more fully exhibited as the process moves on. Trust me, I will not lead you astray. P.S. Please put the Tebow comparison away. It does not apply here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He is obviously not Tebow. But I think the reasons Tebow went in the 1st would be similar to the reasons for Jackson going there - "raw", "great athlete", "leader", "made strides with his accuracy in college". It comes down to is he a good enough, consistent, accurate thrower. I don't think he is at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He is obviously not Tebow. But I think the reasons Tebow went in the 1st would be similar to the reasons for Jackson going there - "raw", "great athlete", "leader", "made strides with his accuracy in college". It comes down to is he a good enough, consistent, accurate thrower. I don't think he is at this point. I agree with your comment that "at this point" he isn't quite ready. What makes me interested in investing in a talent like him, raw as he is, is that he has demonstrated improvement (refinement) in his passing but still needs to develop his game. From everything I have read about him he has the character, work ethic and desire. Ideally, it would be useful for him to stay another year under the tutelage of Petrino but I don't see him staying in school another year. Another thing one has to factor in when evaluating him is that his team isn't really that good. He is carrying the load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I agree with your comment that "at this point" he isn't quite ready. What makes me interested in investing in a talent like him, raw as he is, is that he has demonstrated improvement (refinement) in his passing but still needs to develop his game. From everything I have read about him he has the character, work ethic and desire. Ideally, it would be useful for him to stay another year under the tutelage of Petrino but I don't see him staying in school another year. Another thing one has to factor in when evaluating him is that his team isn't really that good. He is carrying the load. John, I'm with u!! I hope the Bills could acquire Lamar Jackson for the simple reason is that he's Tyrod Taylor with a ceiling. I would like to see him under the tutelage of Tyrod in learning how to be a professional. One thing you can be sure is that Tyrod is a pros pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 John, I'm with u!! I hope the Bills could acquire Lamar Jackson for the simple reason is that he's Tyrod Taylor with a ceiling. I would like to see him under the tutelage of Tyrod in learning how to be a professional. One thing you can be sure is that Tyrod is a pros pro I have made this point on a number of postings which you are also making is that the best situation is to have an experienced qb in place so the rookie is not forced to play before he is ready. Goff was not close to being ready in his rookie year. He was overwhelmed. Having an offseason to prepare after his rookie year where he was exposed to the playbook gave him the preparation to function with some understanding what he was doing. There is still a learning curve for a qb such as Goff but after making a quantum leap this year I expect him to be much more comfortable entering his third year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 That was a dime from Grier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 So Grier has sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 So Grier has sucked. He's solid but don't see him being elite in the NFL, 3rd rounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Grier has had a bad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 As of this moment, I am hoping we find a way to get Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Grier is bad. Rudolph didn't look too hot either. The good news is the Bills will have plenty of QB's to choose from, I just don't know if any of them are any good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Crazy how this class has fallen. Allen bombed, Darnold regressed, and Rosen actually improved just not enough for those wanting perfection. I think the rest of the QBs are playing as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Everytime I see Rosen play for some reason I see Cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Grier has had a bad day. It's the hair...he is more concerned with looking pretty than being a student of the position imo...I don't trust players like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It's the hair...he is more concerned with looking pretty than being a student of the position imo...I don't trust players like that.lol. What happened to Rosen? Heard he was out but didnt know why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 lol. What happened to Rosen? Heard he was out but didnt know why Not sure...sounds like the injury is still undisclosed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Not sure...sounds like the injury is still undisclosed He was limping slightly, but it looked like it was his right hand. In street cloths late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Rosens 4.5 yards an attempt was a thing of beauty before the finger injury. Cant win games. Rudolph should have been considered the number one QB from the start of the year and now its obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 UCLA has such a crap team around Rosen. He is a lock to declare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 UCLA has such a crap team around Rosen. He is a lock to declare.Hes going first and will be areally good pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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