OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) ....painful QB class?....try the 2007 Class read...... http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/131110/the-dreadful-2007-qb-draft-class Edited April 17, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I love this time of the year lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 This QB class is ideal for a QB starved team that doesn't hold a top pick. It has a variety of guys with different skill sets who all grade out from mid/early first to early third round depending on who you trust. It provides an oppurtunity to address the position without overpaying. I hope they find a guy and nail it. Great post. If you want a great QB prospect that even an idiot can see is good then get ready to give up 3 1st round picks +. I would rather get Mahomes or Trubisky for one pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I dont think the Bills should trade up to get anyone. If the QB is there at ten that they love then I wont like it but I will understand it. I am hoping they go with an impact player but we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Link? Here are Bills fans "Wait until next year because this years crop sucks" Its been a 20 year theme minus Andrew Luck (who BTW Still hasn't gotten Indy to a super bowl despite his hype) Leroi said "We need an early run on QBs. If not, he will be there in the 2nd and we will pass on him. Imo" on April 12th in one of the Trubisky threads. He said elsewhere all the qb talk was smokescreen and that we had targeted five players. I cannot recollect precisely, but it was something like wr 2, te 1, cb 1, and de 1. Edited April 17, 2017 by Dr. Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Leroi said "We need an early run on QBs. If not, he will be there in the 2nd and we will pass on him. Imo" on April 12th in one of the Trubisky threads. He said elsewhere all the qb talk was smokescreen and that we had targeted five players. I cannot recollect precisely, but it was something like wr 2, te 1, cb 1, and de 1. I remember Leroi calling the Spiller pick under Nix. Maybe he still has connections but not ones to the new guy (Mcdermott). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Great post. If you want a great QB prospect that even an idiot can see is good then get ready to give up 3 1st round picks +. I would rather get Mahomes or Trubisky for one pick. Yep, almost all those who want to wait because we have holes to fill are willing to sell the farm in 2018. I posted in another thread, btw, Greg Gabriel's April 14th mock has Watson to the Bears, Mahomes to the Jets, Trubisky to Bills. The qbs are going much earlier than many folks imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I remember Leroi calling the Spiller pick under Nix. Maybe he still has connections but not ones to the new guy (Mcdermott). He nailed Darby too, FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Has there ever been "a one year wonder" college QB who has been a successful pro? It's just difficult for me to feel good about Trubisky. I don't study the draft. I didn't know he started only one year. I don't remember Parcells' drafting rules, but they were very good. One rule is never take a QB based on one season of stats. If he hasn't started and succeeded for two seasons, you don't know what you're getting. Here you go. This is what Parcells said to draft a QB: Be a three-year starter Be a senior in college Graduate from college Start 30 games Win 23 games Post a 2:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio Complete at least 60-percent of passes thrown Don't trade up for Trubisky. Don't take him at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 He nailed Darby too, FWIW.and the McDermott hire well before anyone else knew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I don't study the draft. I didn't know he started only one year. I don't remember Parcells' drafting rules, but they were very good. One rule is never take a QB based on one season of stats. If he hasn't started and succeeded for two seasons, you don't know what you're getting. Here you go. This is what Parcells said to draft a QB: Be a three-year starter Be a senior in college Graduate from college Start 30 games Win 23 games Post a 2:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio Complete at least 60-percent of passes thrown Don't trade up for Trubisky. Don't take him at 10. Watson's leaving a year early, so he isn't a three-year starter and he isn't a senior. But he's started 30, he's won more than 23 and he has the other stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I don't study the draft. I didn't know he started only one year. I don't remember Parcells' drafting rules, but they were very good. One rule is never take a QB based on one season of stats. If he hasn't started and succeeded for two seasons, you don't know what you're getting. Here you go. This is what Parcells said to draft a QB: Be a three-year starter Be a senior in college Graduate from college Start 30 games Win 23 games Post a 2:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio Complete at least 60-percent of passes thrown Don't trade up for Trubisky. Don't take him at 10. Parcells rules were good for his time but look pretty dated today. The top prospects don't stay around these days. If you followed his rules you wouldn't do very well. Parcells last used these to acquire Chad Henne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Parcells rules were good for his time but look pretty dated today. The top prospects don't stay around these days. If you followed his rules you wouldn't do very well. Parcells last used these to acquire Chad Henne. Pretty sure Dak meets those requirements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 no way we are moving up in this draft. Not with TT signed on at number 10 I could see it happening possibly but no way we give up stuff to move up in this draft where no QB is really standing out as a no brainier. Kind of obvious they want QB teams moving up in front of them, that's is if they leaked the story or leaked the appearance of wanting a QB early. Otherwise its a fluff piece liek all the rest .. Bills have QB issues for years link Bills to QBs it writes itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Look, I am not banging down the door for a QB at 10. So I have no problem sitting him behind Taylor for a year. Give him time to get uses to the speed. Let's not throw him to the wolves like, say, Tannehill/EJ/Geno/Bortles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Borgia Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Look, I am not banging down the door for a QB at 10. So I have no problem sitting him behind Taylor for a year. Give him time to get uses to the speed. Let's not throw him to the wolves like, say, Tannehill/EJ/Geno/Bortles. Well, when Taylor gets injured, you'd HAVE to start the new QB. You think the fans would accept seeing Cardale Jones replace Taylor when they have a rookie QB that they want to see instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I don't study the draft. I didn't know he started only one year. I don't remember Parcells' drafting rules, but they were very good. One rule is never take a QB based on one season of stats. If he hasn't started and succeeded for two seasons, you don't know what you're getting. Here you go. This is what Parcells said to draft a QB: Be a three-year starter Be a senior in college Graduate from college Start 30 games Win 23 games Post a 2:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio Complete at least 60-percent of passes thrown Don't trade up for Trubisky. Don't take him at 10. Brian Brohm met every one of these requirements and then some. Judge the individual, not whether he meets prescribed categories, many of which are arbitrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Get a starter and impact player at 10, no QB please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 then it came out that they had never been to a game at the Ralph until they OWNED the team? Close follower of the team here, had never heard this. Where did this come out? Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Pretty sure Dak meets those requirements Just looked it up, surprisingly he did. 32-17 as a starter if I'm counting W's and L's correctly. Also had a much better touchdown to interception ratio than I would have guessed. Let's see how year two goes, this seems like a story that is to good to be true. Everyone just ignored this kid, well...mostly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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