Estro Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) You aren't getting the 33rd pick for Tyrod Taylor. You also aren't getting a 2nd round pick for Tyrod, probably not a 3rd rounder either. Had we negotiated a team friendly deal with Tyrod and not given him all the leverage he may have been a tradeable asset. With the terrible deal we gave him, though, I don't see why a team would give us a pick for him. They know we overpayed, they know he's not worth $27.5M in cash in '17, and so they know we are now forced to cut him unless we want to pay stupid $$$$ to a middling QB. At this point I would take any pick from the Browns even if it was a 7th rounder because I think it's in the Bills best interest to move on from Tyrod. I think we need to seriously upgrade the position, and I don't want to pay a QB $27.5M in cash and still not feel comfortable about the position. It's an easy decision, IMO. Save the money, and keep looking. Tough pill to swallow, but any objective Bills fan knows Tyrod will never be a playoff type QB year in and year out, he's just not a good enough of a passer. Edited March 5, 2017 by Estro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If I am Cleveland I let the chips fall. No trade. Let Whaley make his play and take what is given. The Browns have cap money to burn so they can afford to play with house money. Granted Tyrod might be cheaper via a trade but with all the money they have to spend and the number of draft picks they hold, force Whaley's hand and then low ball him. Cleveland is in full rebuild, what's another year? They can get someone to keep the seat warm and or use a pick to do what most on this board would do anyway and that is draft a Qb this Year and next, saving money and picks. They will probably get another early bite at next year's apple anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGBillsFan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If I'm Cleveland, I'm not giving anything for TT. I would force DW hand. I would let FA play out, wait until March 11 and see what the Bills do with him. If they cut him, then go after him, if not I got pick 1, 12 and 33 to get a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 How about 1 and 33 for Tyrod 10 and our 2nd? This is called living in la la land. According to the draft value chart that would be the equivalent of the Browns giving up 1820 pts on the chart for Tyrod, which is slightly more than the 4th overall pick in the draft. If you think any team would value Tyrod like the 4th overall pick and then have to hand him $27.5M in cash, you truly have no understanding of how the NFL works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If it was offered I'd do that but it'll never be offered. As far as the 12th pick ... Please And I doubt anyone would trade for that contract, but the agent will ask for more. Cleveland does have the cap space to pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas22 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Depends on how bad they want him... they already have a QB just like him in RG3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 This is called living in la la land. According to the draft value chart that would be the equivalent of the Browns giving up 1820 pts on the chart for Tyrod, which is slightly more than the 4th overall pick in the draft. If you think any team would value Tyrod like the 4th overall pick and then have to hand him $27.5M in cash, you truly have no understanding of how the NFL works. i didn't say the Browns would do it. Although they are the only organization in football more clueless then we are, so why knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Would you trade Tyrod's Option to Cleveland for the 33rd overall pick? Yes, but maybe be bold and make it include a conditional pick. If all these JLC rumors are true, Bills would be foolish to let TT go if there is a team willing to trade for him. Only shot Cleveland has to nab him, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Why are there all these shiityy rumors as topics with no links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If I am Cleveland I let the chips fall. No trade. Let Whaley make his play and take what is given. The Browns have cap money to burn so they can afford to play with house money. Granted Tyrod might be cheaper via a trade but with all the money they have to spend and the number of draft picks they hold, force Whaley's hand and then low ball him. Cleveland is in full rebuild, what's another year? They can get someone to keep the seat warm and or use a pick to do what most on this board would do anyway and that is draft a Qb this Year and next, saving money and picks. They will probably get another early bite at next year's apple anyway. That is assuming that on the open market Tyrod would choose Cleveland over Denver, NYJ, SF, and possibly Washington. Smart move would be the aggressive move for Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Without a 2nd thought I take the 33rd pick and send Tyrod packing. Take your QB at 10 then WR and S in the 2nd Round.not a bad plan,if any of those are considered an upgrade. If all four are there at ten,who ya taking,and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMassare Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) Why are there all these shiityy rumors as topics with no links Here: bleacherreport.com/articles/2696252-tyrod-taylor-rumors-browns-reportedly-have-significant-interest-in-qb http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2017-nfl-free-agency-browns-primed-to-land-tyrod-taylor-bears-eye-glennon/ Edited March 6, 2017 by KevinMassare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 The most I could see Cleveland giving is a 3rd rounder. That contract sucks for the Bills and would suck for Cleveland. Since Cleveland is every free agents last choice, that contract might just suck less than what they'd have to pay if Tyrod was free agent. What I actually think is happening is Cleveland's trying to bait Bills into keeping Tyrod at that inflated contract so Bills pass on QB at 10. There's no way Bills are giving Taylor $30m guaranteed and taking QB at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Saw this was LaConfora's article, his accuracy is far below the Mendoza line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Saw this was LaConfora's article, his accuracy is far below the Mendoza line Exactly. Anything he says EVER should be taken with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 it was quite some time ago that I had a feeling that is where he was going to end up. still nothing but rumors and speculation but honestly, if he hasn't signed yet, he's gone. what's kind of a drag is how both sides dragged it on like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Saw this was LaConfora's article, his accuracy is far below the Mendoza line Dudes batting .050. He's still in AA ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 it was quite some time ago that I had a feeling that is where he was going to end up. still nothing but rumors and speculation but honestly, if he hasn't signed yet, he's gone. what's kind of a drag is how both sides dragged it on like this. What did TT drag out? TT didn't even stand up to the team and make any serious waves about holding out when he was playing on a baby contract. Whaley and company decided to negotiate out of good faith and now they are taking the decision up the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 it was quite some time ago that I had a feeling that is where he was going to end up. still nothing but rumors and speculation but honestly, if he hasn't signed yet, he's gone. what's kind of a drag is how both sides dragged it on like this. Yeah it makes you wonder. We will see soon enough, either way whatever they decide to do I sure hope it turns out to be the right choice. But I certainly wouldn't gamble on that with Whaley driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Why wouldn't Cleveland just wait until we cut him? This was just written in Bleacher, the report says their interest is in Tyrod as a FA because we just might trade him to someone else so if they want him they better get on it. What is cool for us is his option isn't do til the 11 and free agency begins the 9 so that gives us 3 total days to trade him while other QBs are moving around and gives a brief window of opportunity to trade him with out picking up the his option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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