3rdnlng Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, TPS said: It's too bad they declined to use WHO's test at this point in time, but you can't change what's happened. It's clear to some where his focus was at that time, and it's clear in the tweet. It's also clear to me that Monday's crash finally got him to change focus. He's been a different person on this since then, and I'm glad to see it. He's finally acting presidential, wrt virus. We weren't offered any test kits from WHO. The test kits we had were not reliable and gave out about 40% false negatives and 40% false positives. We sent them out and when we found out about the problems we recalled them. We quickly revised the test and it took a little time to verify their reliability. You seem just a little too anxious to find blame, as long as it can be placed on Trump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: This (The Democrats) is their (The Democrats) new hoax? Who is the "This" in the sentence? you're an idiot. you were provided context up thread that clearly debunked your claim, yet you still insist on promulgating the lie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: This (The Democrats) is their (The Democrats) new hoax? Who is the "This" in the sentence? Enough. You are the last person in America arguing that point. Everyone else moved on admitting, or ignoring, their error. The subject of a sentence is the person, place, thing, or idea that is doing or being something. You can find the subject of a sentence if you can find the verb. Ask the question, "Who or what 'verbs' or 'verbed'?" and the answer to that question is the subject. The Democrats. Back to the thread. As the Economy Sinks Deeper, American’s Confidence In Trump’s Economic Prowess Remains Unchanged https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/03/18/as-the-economy-sinks-deeper-americans-are-still-confident-in-trumps-ability-to-handle-it/ . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Seems like you may want to up your reading comprehension skills. Mueller investigation was a hoax since Mueller knew there was no conspiracy before he took the job. Ukrainian impeachment was a hoax since it was readily apparent the day after Nancy Pelosi called for impeachment. Now there are several mini hoaxes having to do with the response to the coronavirus. Yes well the 'hop aboard and hate America platform' isn't all that great for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: I think you aren't obviously going to recoup the trillions in stimulus spending that is going to take to get the economies of nations impacted back from the edge of depression. However China should be writing off hundreds of billions in debt they bought throughout the years from various nations impacted. That would be a start. How you collect on that? I would say a good place to start would be economic pressure. Trump was also slow to act, downplayed the danger, contradicted the experts, tried cutting funding to CDC, disbanded the pandemic control board, should he be sanctioned? Seriously. The Chinese dictator sure screwed up, but where they the only ones that discounted the science? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Trump was also slow to act, False - repeatedly spun that way by the Left downplayed the danger, Untrue - absolutely , cherry picked partial quotes of reassurance don't count. contradicted the experts, Never tried cutting funding to CDC, Proposed slowing the annual increases, was not passed disbanded the pandemic control board, Proven false time and again, repeated because libs are liars should he be sanctioned? Seriously. I know ?thrives on his (negative) attention, but he appears to be out of ammunition ( especially now that multiple democrat/media figures have come out and praised President Trump's actions) he repeats and repeats ................reminds me of his Russia folly. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 hours ago, ALF said: I'm not a Trump supporter but no way do I blame him for this disaster for the economy, it's a black swan event. I have a friend who voted for Trump who now hates him. We were all texting last night about the Bills moves and I said he should get his season ticket again. After 34 years he dropped his last year.............He said he doesn't have the money because of President Dow. How can anybody blame Trump for this economy. I checked the Euro market today and it's worse than the Dow. I'm at a loss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, bbb said: I have a friend who voted for Trump who now hates him. We were all texting last night about the Bills moves and I said he should get his season ticket again. After 34 years he dropped his last year.............He said he doesn't have the money because of President Dow. How can anybody blame Trump for this economy. I checked the Euro market today and it's worse than the Dow. I'm at a loss. It's not his fault but when the guy brags about the economy incessantly four three and a half years ia going to have to expect some backlash. Presidents in general always get too much credit or blame for the economy. Edited March 19, 2020 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It's not his fault but when the guy brags about the economy incessantly four three and a half years ia going to have to expect some backlash. Presidents in general always get too much credit or blame for the economy. The President and his administration made many purposeful moves to assist the Market as it climbed over the last three years. They were indeed involved. On the other hand, I’ve not heard a single person suggest one thing he, or anyone else could do to stabilize the Market’s fall in the last three weeks in the face of an unprecedented worldwide health crisis. Let’s not just do crazy talk here. With that said, this crisis will pass and the Market will rebound just as it always does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 15 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: There are many ways for them to pay. Losing a good share of their manufacturing base may be enough to teach them a lesson. Move a vast majority of our manufacturing to Mexico would be a wonderful thing. Hecho en Mexico will be the new Made in China. Mexico will become so strong THEY’ll need a wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Lets not forget that the corrupt oil governments are part of the problem here. Destabilizing the market. The green new deal is the answer to those brutal regimes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lets not forget that the corrupt oil governments are part of the problem here. Destabilizing the market. The green new deal is the answer to those brutal regimes You have a unique ability to make statements that are wrong in a multitude of ways. The Green New Deal is on par with: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lets not forget that the corrupt oil governments are part of the problem here. Destabilizing the market. The green new deal is the answer to those brutal regimes Stop the nonsense. There’s nothing stopping this country from moving towards a more sustainable future other than the limits of our own ingenuity. If on the other hand you think the population should be forced by a central government to pay double or triple for something they already know they can get for less cost, you’re dreaming! Nobody will consider that a ‘deal’. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Senator Jim Inhofe calling on a big Tariff on foreign oil, claiming Russians and Saudis are attacking us. National security issue, duh. Well, yes 42 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Stop the nonsense. There’s nothing stopping this country from moving towards a more sustainable future other than the limits of our own ingenuity. If on the other hand you think the population should be forced by a central government to pay double or triple for something they already know they can get for less cost, you’re dreaming! Nobody will consider that a ‘deal’. Green energy will be cheaper and more reliable, and we won’t have to spend money defending the royal family in Saudi Arabia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 the DOW has now reached the point where it was prior to Trumps coronation, Dec. '16 @ 19,935. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Senator Jim Inhofe calling on a big Tariff on foreign oil, claiming Russians and Saudis are attacking us. National security issue, duh. Well, yes Green energy will be cheaper and more reliable, and we won’t have to spend money defending the royal family in Saudi Arabia Deek's point was get to work on green energy as entrepreneurs then watch the money flow to it versus arbitrary edicts by a clueless central government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: the DOW has now reached the point where it was prior to Trumps coronation, Dec. '16 @ 19,935. Obama says hello! Just now, RochesterRob said: Deek's point was get to work on green energy as entrepreneurs then watch the money flow to it versus arbitrary edicts by a clueless central government. And my point is that we accelerate our drive to energy independence. You guys want us under the influence of the Saudi Royals and bloody hands Vlad, no thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 A $20 tariff on a barrel of oil will stop the economic slide coming in Texas, LA, etc. I'm waiting for Russia to start selling off their gold reserves. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 big if it goes through. Pakistan, China and Russia decide to conduct trade in local currencies skip dollars The eight-member countries of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), including China, Russia, and Pakistan, have made the principle decision to conduct bilateral trade and investment and issue bonds in local and national currencies instead of US dollars. As per details, a road map will be finalized and signed at SCO's Finance Ministers' meeting in Moscow on March 18th. ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Foxx said: big if it goes through. Pakistan, China and Russia decide to conduct trade in local currencies skip dollars The eight-member countries of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), including China, Russia, and Pakistan, have made the principle decision to conduct bilateral trade and investment and issue bonds in local and national currencies instead of US dollars. As per details, a road map will be finalized and signed at SCO's Finance Ministers' meeting in Moscow on March 18th. ... They've wanted to do it for a long time. The dollar is skyrocketing and is too expensive for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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