BeginnersMind Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Now please name four concrete policies or actions that you’re critical of the President on. And the content of his tweets doesn’t count! 1.Pushing and signing off on recent budget. 2. Tax cut without spending cuts in excess of tax cuts. 3. Veto of Saudi arms sales embargo 4 - Tear down of ACA (which was fine) without anything in its place Generally, his isolationism (except as noted below) is a big problem as well. On the positive side, I'll give his 4 best: 1- China (I could list this as 1-4 because this is my runaway favorite). Trade disparity, IP theft, currency manipulation--the economic wins here are worth fighting for. He's yet to show he can win the regional influence war in Asia so I'd watch that. 2 - Broadly, peace. Trump is getting us disentangled from a lot of war zones and his willingness to talk to the crazy ***** helps peace 3 - Immigration, kind of. He has floundered around looking for solutions on this starting with some ideas that were stupid (the wall) and landing more recently on interesting ideas to pressure Mexico to be the buffer. It's not a high priority (for me) and he's spending way too much time on it but there may be progress there. 4 - Judicial appointments. Setting aside the two SC judges, he's remaking the courts in a great way. Edited July 30, 2019 by BeginnersMind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, BeginnersMind said: I always have. But you probably think because I'm critical of Trump on some things, 1 - I want him impeached. 2 - I think he’s a racist. 3 - I voted for Hillary. 4 - I believe Obama was a great president. Etc. No, I never said or thought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The Deep State apoplectic over the appointment of John Ratcliffe as DNI – for good reason American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson Original Article 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said: 1.Pushing and signing off on recent budget. 2. Tax cut without spending cuts in excess of tax cuts. 3. Veto of Saudi arms sales embargo 4 - Tear down of ACA (which was fine) without anything in its place Generally, his isolationism (except as noted below) is a big problem as well. On the positive side, I'll give his 4 best: 1- China (I could list this as 1-4 because this is my runaway favorite). Trade disparity, IP theft, currency manipulation--the economic wins here are worth fighting for. He's yet to show he can win the regional influence war in Asia so I'd watch that. 2 - Broadly, peace. Trump is getting us disentangled from a lot of war zones and his willingness to talk to the crazy ***** helps peace 3 - Immigration, kind of. He has floundered around looking for solutions on this starting with some ideas that were stupid (the wall) and landing more recently on interesting ideas to pressure Mexico to be the buffer. It's not a high priority (for me) and he's spending way too much time on it but there may be progress there. 4 - Judicial appointments. Setting aside the two SC judges, he's remaking the courts in a great way. There is nothing "fine" about the ACA. It has contributed significantly to double digit annual rate hikes and the rise in deductibles for private insurance due to mandated coverages, and the increase in government funded (Medicaid) care which forces providers to accept way below market rates. It's a cluster _ _ _ _. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said: 1.Pushing and signing off on recent budget. 2. Tax cut without spending cuts in excess of tax cuts. 3. Veto of Saudi arms sales embargo 4 - Tear down of ACA (which was fine) without anything in its place Thanks for taking the challenge. So it sounds like your biggest problems are national fiscal policy? That’s fair, but as one of those who’s paying for more than my ‘fair share’ I don’t hold the same concerns. I’d rather see people employed! I’ll depend on Congress, not the President, to cut spending. It’s their job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: There is nothing "fine" about the ACA. It has contributed significantly to double digit annual rate hikes and the rise in deductibles for private insurance due to mandated coverages, and the increase in government funded (Medicaid) care which forces providers to accept way below market rates. It's a cluster _ _ _ _. To be clear, I was saying that his tearing of the ACA down was fine. And for the record, the double digit increases were happening before and after the ACA. The ACA didn’t cause them. It just did nothing to affect them. 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Thanks for taking the challenge. So it sounds like your biggest problems are national fiscal policy? That’s fair, but as one of those who’s paying for more than my ‘fair share’ I don’t hold the same concerns. I’d rather see people employed! I’ll depend on Congress, not the President, to cut spending. It’s their job! I care about our future. Borrowing to get the BMW now is a bad deal for my kids. I own businesses and am very much in touch with my tax bill. I am happy to pay less but I see zero fiscal responsibility from Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: I care about our future. Borrowing to get the BMW now is a bad deal for my kids. I own businesses and am very much in touch with my tax bill. I am happy to pay less but I see zero fiscal responsibility from Trump. Once again you and I agree... but from one business owner to another I didn’t sign up to be the only one paying for all of this ridiculous spending! Obama raised my taxes because he said my country needed it during the recession. I didn’t complain. Now with the recession long ago over Trump put the rate back where it was. Sounds right to me. Now it’s time for Congress to start slashing...but they won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Once again you and I agree... but from one business owner to another I didn’t sign up to be the only one paying for all of this ridiculous spending! Obama raised my taxes because he said my country needed it during the recession. I didn’t complain. Now with the recession long ago over Trump put the rate back where it was. Sounds right to me. Now it’s time for Congress to start slashing...but they won’t. Happy to lay blame wherever it needs to be laid. Congress too. But you asked about what I disliked most about Trump’s policies outside his general poor leadership so there it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Why is Wray being an obstructionist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 57 minutes ago, njbuff said: Why is Wray being an obstructionist? Not sure whether or not he is to be honest. Even if he's canned, which is what some outlets are saying is coming, I'm not sure that will be definitive either. The spooky side of this ongoing story is littered with disinformation. Some people have been tapped to do a job, then step aside (example: Sessions, Coats) for the long term replacement to come in and pick up the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 does anyone know if the transcripts dropped? https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1156412024399679488 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: does anyone know if the transcripts dropped? https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1156412024399679488 I haven't seen anything yet. We have seen a bunch of stuff hit the wire after closing time on the east coast, however, so there are quite a few hours left. We shall see! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Hedge said: I haven't seen anything yet. We have seen a bunch of stuff hit the wire after closing time on the east coast, however, so there are quite a few hours left. We shall see! thanks. i just wanted to be sure i hadn't missed 'em somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 9:49 AM, BeginnersMind said: To be clear, I was saying that his tearing of the ACA down was fine. And for the record, the double digit increases were happening before and after the ACA. The ACA didn’t cause them. It just did nothing to affect them. I too own a business and our experience here in Illinois is that the premium increases for health insurance have ratcheted up significantly since about 2011. We certainly had increases before then and above inflation but nothing like what we've seen since Obamacare which mandated additional coverages we didn't want to buy, rates families of 6 the same as families of 3 (that might be Illinois law only, don't know) and caused private insurers to increase rates to cover additional Medicaid recipients and subsidized individuals. We've had at least 4 years since then with 20+% and even above 30% annual increases. That and we've been subjected to the Obamacare tax. It's been very painful for the company and the employees here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Foxx said: does anyone know if the transcripts dropped? https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1156412024399679488 I got nuthin'. Did they drop? I know Trump has a rally tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 7:15 AM, BeginnersMind said: I always have. But you probably think because I'm critical of Trump on some things, 1 - I want him impeached. 2 - I think he’s a racist. 3 - I voted for Hillary. 4 - I believe Obama was a great president. Etc. Four reasons I think you are mentally deranged.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Did anyone ask for Beginners little manifesto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 47 minutes ago, row_33 said: Did anyone ask for Beginners little manifesto He's outside right now with a kite and a key during a lightning storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeginnersMind Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Wacka said: Four reasons I think you are mentally deranged.? You probably read my post and think I believe those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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