26CornerBlitz Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 @NFL_CFB The top 6 in the #CFBPlayoff rankings: 1. @AlabamaFTBL 2. @OhioStateFB 3. @ClemsonFB 4. @UW_Football 5. @UMichFootball 6. @BadgerFootball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 @NFL_CFB The top 6 in the #CFBPlayoff rankings: 1. @AlabamaFTBL 2. @OhioStateFB 3. @ClemsonFB 4. @UW_Football 5. @UMichFootball 6. @BadgerFootball Only game that really matters is Washington minus 7 vs Colorado it appears. Looks to be the only question and they're solid favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 @MoveTheSticks Ohio St lost all these dudes and they're still likely to go to the CFB Playoff. Pretty incredible. (h/t @NFLResearch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 @MoveTheSticks Ohio St lost all these dudes and they're still likely to go to the CFB Playoff. Pretty incredible. (h/t @NFLResearch) They're a friggin' factory. Still can't believe Michigan blew it last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Only game that really matters is Washington minus 7 vs Colorado it appears. Looks to be the only question and they're solid favorites. Idk, I believe the Penn St. and Wisconsin game could factor in as well as long as Penn St. wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Meh. Still a beauty contest. If you want a true national champion, have all 7 FBS conference champs and one at-large play for a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Meh. Still a beauty contest. If you want a true national champion, have all 7 FBS conference champs and one at-large play for a title. It has never made sense to me as to why this isn't the system. Have a wildcard in there to make 8 teams if you must but the conference champions of each conference should get the chance to play for the National Title. The whole ranking system and bowl game qualifications just seems totally bonkers to a non-American looking in from the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) It has never made sense to me as to why this isn't the system. Have a wildcard in there to make 8 teams if you must but the conference champions of each conference should get the chance to play for the National Title. The whole ranking system and bowl game qualifications just seems totally bonkers to a non-American looking in from the outside. The reason they don't just do this in CFB (the top 4 conference champs, given the current format) is because of unbalanced schedules. While it is possible, it wouldn't automatically provide the best 4 teams (determined based on overall season-long resume). That is why they have a committee. They examine every win and every loss and circumstances within. A conference championship is a factor (along with head-to-head, SOS rank, and result of common opponents), but they are only used when there needs to be a tie-breaker between teams they view as too close to call. Not as an overall criteria in selection. Edited December 1, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 The reason they don't just do this in CFB (the top 4 conference champs, given the current format) is because of unbalanced schedules. While it is possible, it wouldn't automatically provide the best 4 teams. That is why they have a committee. A conference championship is a factor, but only when there needs to be a tie-breaker between teams they view as too close to call. Not as an overall criteria in selection. Well reform the scheduling structure then. And if two of the best teams are in the same conference and one of them doesn't make the play-offs..... well boo-hoo. That is sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Idk, I believe the Penn St. and Wisconsin game could factor in as well as long as Penn St. wins. Wisconsin winning would also have a chance to overtake Clemson or Washington if either lose, given that they are currently ranked ahead of PSU. However, it would need to be a very convincing win for either one or Michigan will take that 4th spot. Well reform the scheduling structure then. And if two of the best teams are in the same conference and one of them doesn't make the play-offs..... well boo-hoo. That is sport. This is why the CFB selection process is set up to encourage schools to schedule strong out of conference opponents. They are a resume builder. The programs know this. But, the scheduling is done so many years ahead that while a school can seem like a formidable opponent now, by the time you play they could be unranked. For example, Wisconsin beat LSU which should be considered a good win most years but they just fell out of the top 25. The goal is the put the 4 best teams in the playoff. When you don't do that, you get MSU getting demolished 41-0 in the semis to Bama last year. Look at this year - where best case scenario, the Big 10, Pac12, and ACC CCG winners will combine for the same # of top 10 wins as OSU. Edited December 1, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Meh. Still a beauty contest. If you want a true national champion, have all 7 FBS conference champs and one at-large play for a title. Even if some of those conferences have zero ranked teams, one should go to the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 OSU being in there is a national tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Meh. Still a beauty contest. If you want a true national champion, have all 7 FBS conference champs and one at-large play for a title. If you are referring to how attractive the team's season-long resume is, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Even if some of those conferences have zero ranked teams, one should go to the playoffs? I think what I am suggesting - though my knowledge of the logistics is limited - is a pretty fundamental re-think of the system that gets away from rankings altogether. It just seems insane to an outsider that the national champion has some relationship to who a bunch of experts think is the best team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I think what I am suggesting - though my knowledge of the logistics is limited - is a pretty fundamental re-think of the system that gets away from rankings altogether. It just seems insane to an outsider that the national champion has some relationship to who a bunch of experts think is the best team. while CFB and NFL are extremely different in how they determine playoff teams, I personally don't think one is "better" than the other. Both have pros and cons. The fact that CFB even has any type of playoff system at all now is a huge change from how it was pre-2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 while CFB and NFL are extremely different in how they determine playoff teams, I personally don't think one is "better" than the other. Both have pros and cons. The fact that CFB even has any type of playoff system at all now is a huge change from how it was pre-2014. The freaking FCS manages to have a full playoff system in place with a LOT more teams to boot. FBS is a joke in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 8 teams would solve it 4 isn't enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Someone said it earlier, if the best two teams are in the same conference then the team that beats the other advances. Earn your shot on the field, not in a conference room. And all 7 FBS conferences should be included. Champion vs champion till one remains. The one at-large slot will get the most deserving independent or mon-conference team. But we all now the reason it's not this way is because the networks don't care about fairness. Only money. Edited December 1, 2016 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 OSU being in there is a national tragedy. I don't know if you are trolling or just a hater but they have THE strongest resume in the country. That does not mean that they should be #1; that is definitely Bama. The Buckeyes beat the number 5, number 6 and number 8 teams (2 of which were on the road). They beat another team that was ranked in the top 10 at the time 62-3. Their only loss was in overtime, on the road, to the #7 team who blocked a punt and returned a FG block for a TD in the game. It would be impossible to leave OSU out when they clearly have done what's needed to get in. Fortunately, the committee has common sense and has some criteria that they use to break ties. The Buckeyes aren't in a tiebreaking scenario as they are a tier ahead of those other teams in the eyes of the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I don't know if you are trolling or just a hater but they have THE strongest resume in the country. That does not mean that they should be #1; that is definitely Bama. The Buckeyes beat the number 5, number 6 and number 8 teams (2 of which were on the road). They beat another team that was ranked in the top 10 at the time 62-3. Their only loss was in overtime, on the road, to the #7 team who blocked a punt and returned a FG block for a TD in the game. It would be impossible to leave OSU out when they clearly have done what's needed to get in. Fortunately, the committee has common sense and has some criteria that they use to break ties. The Buckeyes aren't in a tiebreaking scenario as they are a tier ahead of those other teams in the eyes of the committee. The double speak from OSU alumni is always entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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