Gugny Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Down the rabbit hole... So many key players hurt last year but still it wasn't a great coaching job by Rex last year. People don't want to pay attention to the rest of the league... Is John Harbaugh a great coach? He followed up a 10-6 year with 5-11 in 2015 Rex came into a new team and after 2 years would be 17-15. The Buffalo Bills over 2 years would be 17-15. Did you forget who you root for? Some perspective for you, 17-15 over 2 years would be the Bills best stretch since 99-00. If Rex Ryan continues to be a head coach for a few more years, he'll be known as Jeff Fisher, Jr. It's been a looooong time since Rex coached a successful team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 10-6 would guarantee the playoffs in 2 of the last 5 years. It would tie you with the 6 seed in the other 3 years. 10-6 would be the Bills best record since 1999. Firing a coach after going 10-6 would give a lot of other candidates pause. Who would take the job where 10-6 gets you fired. Who would take THE BILLS job if 10-6 gets you fired. Firing for any less that 7-9 would imo cause a lot of coaches to put the Bills on their "nope not going there list" Has a HC actually been fired after a record like that (I do seem to remember it happening once) Ha ha ha Have you watched this team. What has been their record essentially for the past 16 years? Bobby you really need to let go of the "last 16 years thing" New Ownership Different GMs along the way Different coaches along the way but every year is a new year.....its not one big beating (though sometimes it does feel like that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 10-6 would guarantee the playoffs in 2 of the last 5 years. It would tie you with the 6 seed in the other 3 years. 10-6 would be the Bills best record since 1999. Firing a coach after going 10-6 would give a lot of other candidates pause. Who would take the job where 10-6 gets you fired. Who would take THE BILLS job if 10-6 gets you fired. Firing for any less that 7-9 would imo cause a lot of coaches to put the Bills on their "nope not going there list" That's fine 10-6 and no playoffs keep him. I wouldn't never liked the hire to begins with still don't I think he is a poor HC and very over rated as a HC. So sorry that is my opinion of him and nothing is going to change that if we are out of the playoffs. Has a HC actually been fired after a record like that (I do seem to remember it happening once) Bobby you really need to let go of the "last 16 years thing" New Ownership Different GMs along the way Different coaches along the way but every year is a new year.....its not one big beating (though sometimes it does feel like that) No I really don't until the Bills have proven to me that I can shut the door on the past 16 years. They haven't Edited November 22, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Ha ha ha Have you watched this team. What has been their record essentially for the past 16 years? Exactly my point. What has their record been? I love that you are bashing the team but somehow Rex sucks because he can't take this team to 11-5 (as you stated 10-6 should still get him fired). Shirley you see the irony? The Bills are missing the piece that drives all teams that are consistently successful. A stud QB. Tyrod may get there but as one of his biggest detractors you obviously don't think he will ever get there. So going off of your opinions: Tyrod is terrible so the Bills are bad at one of the most important positions in all of sports and the Bills are consistently mediocre so much so that you can put next years record in the bank but Rex should win with this and he sucks even if he goes 10-6 with all of this? hmmm... Has a HC actually been fired after a record like that (I do seem to remember it happening once) Marty Schottenheimer from the Chargers. They replaced him with Norv Turner and never got back to the records Marty was putting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 ESPN had them at 68.7% if they will 10 games and 99% at 11 games and like 9% at 9 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradumbass Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I think as a Bills fan we have to lose the concept of sneaking into the playoffs Playoffs are for the most part the territory of really, really good teams (I get that weak division winners get in sometimes) If the Bills are playoff worthy they'l run the table, it's not that difficult of a schedule that it's undo-able Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 If Rex Ryan continues to be a head coach for a few more years, he'll be known as Jeff Fisher, Jr. It's been a looooong time since Rex coached a successful team. Rex doesn't hold a candle to what Fisher. Fisher has more losses than Rex has as total games coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Exactly my point. What has their record been? I love that you are bashing the team but somehow Rex sucks because he can't take this team to 11-5 (as you stated 10-6 should still get him fired). Shirley you see the irony? The Bills are missing the piece that drives all teams that are consistently successful. A stud QB. Tyrod may get there but as one of his biggest detractors you obviously don't think he will ever get there. So going off of your opinions: Tyrod is terrible so the Bills are bad at one of the most important positions in all of sports and the Bills are consistently mediocre so much so that you can put next years record in the bank but Rex should win with this and he sucks even if he goes 10-6 with all of this? hmmm... Marty Schottenheimer from the Chargers. They replaced him with Norv Turner and never got back to the records Marty was putting up. Yeah my opinion is Rex is not a good HC, but ok you think otherwise Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 10 wins is not out of the question. The Bills will be the favorite in the Jags game, Jets game and Browns game. The Miami and potentially Pittsburgh games will be coin flips. The Oakland game the Bills will be the underdog. If they handle the 3 trash teams (I think that they will), they will have to win 2 of the 3 against the playoff contenders in the AFC (I don't think that they will). 9-7 feels about right to me at this point but 10-6 isn't impossible. We need the AFC West to fall back some. They play each other a bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Failed to take care of business when we had to...Ravens and Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Rex doesn't hold a candle to what Fisher. Fisher has more losses than Rex has as total games coached. I was exaggerating. Just trying to make a point that he's sucked at being a HC for a while, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 If we finish 10-6 that makes us 18-14 since Rex took over. With all the injuries these past 2 seasons I would say that's a great job. We haven't been healthy since week 3 of 2015 vs Mia. BTW fellas our coaching staff is outstanding. Lynn, Kromor, Sanjay,Palmer,Lee,Blake,April Jr,Rob,Reed,Timmy & Crossman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I am curious about what peoples thoughts would be if we went 10-6 and didnt make the playoffs Do they still suck? cuz in a normal year that would be a enough If the Bills could go 10-6 with so many injuries , I would look forward like crazy to the draft and next season with this coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 This is a far more realistic playoff projection app. Right now our chances are slim to none. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoff-picture.html?_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Failed to take care of business when we had to...Ravens and Jets. Agreed here, I think that EITHER of those games is going to end up being the difference in a playoff spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 This is a far more realistic playoff projection app. Right now our chances are slim to none. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoff-picture.html?_r=0 Sshhhhhhh we are "In the Hunt Mode" as Bills fans for the next 4 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 This is a far more realistic playoff projection app. Right now our chances are slim to none. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoff-picture.html?_r=0 That's about right at 20% (ish). The bottom line is that the Bills have to win 5 of 6 to have a chance. The next 3 weeks will tell the story. At 2-1 they will have a decent chance and at 3-0 they would be in GREAT shape. If they don't win at least 2 of these next 3 they are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Agreed here, I think that EITHER of those games is going to end up being the difference in a playoff spot My BBFS has been tingling since the schedule release. I see us with the same scenario the Jets were in last year. All down to the final game and against the Jets who have nothing to play for. It will be Fitz's Super Bowl again. It just lines up to perfectly . I will be a wreck all week leading up to that game if that is the case lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I am curious about what peoples thoughts would be if we went 10-6 and didnt make the playoffs Do they still suck? cuz in a normal year that would be a enough If they go 10-6 and miss it they don't suck. The whole playoff drought is directly tied to New England success. the Bills, Fish and Jets are all in the top 10 of current playoff droughts. If we played in a normal division where all the teams had up-cycles and down-cycles the Bills would've won a division in 16 years. It's just harder to earn a Wild Card than occasionally bubble to the surface in a mediocre division, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 10 wins is not out of the question. The Bills will be the favorite in the Jags game, Jets game and Browns game. The Miami and potentially Pittsburgh games will be coin flips. The Oakland game the Bills will be the underdog. If they handle the 3 trash teams (I think that they will), they will have to win 2 of the 3 against the playoff contenders in the AFC (I don't think that they will). 9-7 feels about right to me at this point but 10-6 isn't impossible. We need the AFC West to fall back some. They play each other a bunch. Agreed here, I think that EITHER of those games is going to end up being the difference in a playoff spot I think you are dead on with both points here. I fully expect a 9-7 / 10-6 type year forcing a holding pattern into next year. It's an extremely steep hill to climb to grab a playoff spot and the combination of those two losses, giving away the dolphins game and the Seattle MNF mess is likely too big a hill to climb. Does it make me a bad fan to hope the wheels completely fall off and we go 5-11 or 6-10? We can still grab a top 10 pick and we've had the "feel good" 9-7 year recently. My biggest fear would be Rex coaching just good enough and TT playing just good enough for a "run it back" year next year with TT's contract costing us Gilmore and/or someone else only to have the wheels completely fall off next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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