Steve Billieve Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 of course I am we should continue to try to upgrade anyway But the fact that he doesnt have anyone to throw to being overlooked by people is well.....insane Completely agree. What exactly do you expect when you don't have much to run or throw with? maybe 25 pts? I don't know what people mean by "the guy" but that was never going to be Taylor. That said it seems like we are seeing a lot more from our qb than we have in a long time, and arguably a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Fireball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I can't wait for the Rex Ryan fan boys and team shills to keep defending this steaming pile of dog crap we see on the field against the better teams. It's cute when you guys get mad every time Tom Brady kills the bills. Its like clockwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 In order for TT to win the SB as the Bills QB the D would have to be like the Bears, Bucs, or Ravens during their championship years. Anything less than that and it just isn't happening. Keep searching till they find a guy who is good enough to win a SB without an all time great D. b/c there's not a season to play in the mean time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 b/c there's not a season to play in the mean time? I thought it was obvious but I was referring to TT being "the guy." As in the guy who has an option on his contract this year that will pay him legit starter salary at the QB position. My apologies if that wasn't clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 John, do you not watch other teams games? Almost no one plays with a full compliment of their weapons. Also, Tyrod had both Woods and Clay today; and it doesn't matter who is on the field when Tyrod throws with a dirt dart or sails the ball 2 out of every 3 throws. This is not even worth debating because its not true Woods is just coming out of a boot.....I am sure he is 100 percent....his next best WR is a guy we signed off the street a couple of weeks ago TT hit slants and button hooks today with receivers in stride......there were also several drops by WR's that should have been caught....... He sailed some high passes today especially at the start of the game....he cant catch them for the pass catchers to. and lets not forget how many sacks he actually got out of in this game. but by all means.....lets draft a QB and hope they are a top 5 guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Start EJ. [ducks to evade buckets of hurled abuse] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) I am not basing anything off this game.....for a multitude of reasons yeah. 16 guys on the injury report, no shady, all but 1 WR out, nothing TT could do about that. let it go people. just like hoodie let go the game we won... just let it go. TT is not Ben, Brees or Brady. That much is for sure. Let's see how the rest of the season goes, then make a judgement. He was playing with 2 boys and a dog on offense today. Edited October 30, 2016 by 8and8-->NoMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 In order for TT to win the SB as the Bills QB the D would have to be like the Bears, Bucs, or Ravens during their championship years. Anything less than that and it just isn't happening. Keep searching till they find a guy who is good enough to win a SB without an all time great D. How many teams won the Super Bowl with a mediocre defense? Even HOFer Brady needed his defense to bail him out for his last SB win. Just about every SB winning team team has had a great defense. Not every SB winning team has had a great QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I feel like he's got happy feet and he can't shake it. It seems like he's imagining pressure and wanting to bail instead of standing tall-ish in the pocket. I've wanted to believe he can get better but he seems to me that he's regressed. I don't have a good feeling about him turning it around anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 How many teams won the Super Bowl with a mediocre defense? Even HOFer Brady needed his defense to bail him out for his last SB win. Just about every SB winning team team has had a great defense. Not every SB winning team has had a great QB. The Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 This is not even worth debating because its not true Woods is just coming out of a boot.....I am sure he is 100 percent....his next best WR is a guy we signed off the street a couple of weeks ago TT hit slants and button hooks today with receivers in stride......there were also several drops by WR's that should have been caught....... He sailed some high passes today especially at the start of the game....he cant catch them for the pass catchers to. and lets not forget how many sacks he actually got out of in this game. but by all means.....lets draft a QB and hope they are a top 5 guy The biggest problem with your take is that even with the sub-par supporting cast, they were getting open but TT was missing open receivers or was leaving them hanging out to get killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I feel like he's got happy feet and he can't shake it. It seems like he's imagining pressure and wanting to bail instead of standing tall-ish in the pocket. I've wanted to believe he can get better but he seems to me that he's regressed. I don't have a good feeling about him turning it around anymore. You know what is there along with his regression? His quality of pass catchers The biggest problem with your take is that even with the sub-par supporting cast, they were getting open but TT was missing open receivers or was leaving them hanging out to get killed. The "hanging out to get killed" is bs as well.......he is fitting into windows as those WRs have a tick to turn and brace for the hit....go back and watch the film. Its just not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 You know what is there along with his regression? His quality of pass catchers The "hanging out to get killed" is bs as well.......he is fitting into windows as those WRs have a tick to turn and brace for the hit....go back and watch the film. Its just not true Does that have anything to do with why he sails so many passes instead of hitting open guys in stride? Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Does that have anything to do with why he sails so many passes instead of hitting open guys in stride? Nope! To be fair, he's heard about Shaq being back. Maybe he thought his target would be 7 foot tall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 To be fair, he's heard about Shaq being back. Maybe he thought his target would be 7 foot tall? It would sail over a 7fter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I'm torn on this. TT was a no doubter for me. However, if you compare him to all other QB's with the same amount of passes or higher, he has the 3rd lowest completion percentage. For someone with that few attempts, that's not good. I don't have an answer right now. When they are healthy for the last 6 weeks, let's see how he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Does that have anything to do with why he sails so many passes instead of hitting open guys in stride? Nope! I am addressing the "gets his receivers killed" comment Its not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 The limited WR corp has nothing to do with Tyrod's level of suck. He is inaccurate and his processing speed is similar to the sloths working at the DMV. He makes some good plays with his legs and offers a reasonable floor at the QB position. This is not a guy you pay 27 million and limit the rest of your roster, he is not good enough to win games and make up that difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I think he's, rightly, saying he wants to judge him based on more than one or two games. Granted, I think we've seen enough at this point to know what we've got. That's an inaccurate passer with slow decision making who bails from the pocket instead of stepping up into it who also has a good deep ball and unbelievable wheels. The highlight plays seem to be enough for some people. Its been more than one or two games. Pretty sure were above twenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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