The Big Cat Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 But was it him not getting a coverage call? Honestly, I'm asking. And what about the last time they destroyed us at home? Was that all Gilmore's fault? It doesn't seem as though any amount of information will encourage you to feel differently about our coach or our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It doesn't seem as though any amount of information will encourage you to feel differently about our coach or our players. I was pretty impressed by Rex's defense this year before yesterday. It doesn't change the fact last year was a huge disappointment. Additionally, it seems as Rex overthinks thingns agaisnt NE. How many blown defensive assignments were their last year against him? As much as some want to blame him, far more players were screwing up than Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb62 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Instead of franchising him at the end of the year does anyone know what exactly is the transition tag, I believe we did it with Peerless Price and we ended up with a number one pick (Willis I hate Applebee's Maghee). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 What I dont understand about our coverage scheme is why are there so many breakdowns? We have what I believe are 3 above average DBs at their positions, Gilmore, Darby, and NRC. We have a solid pass rush. Keep it simple. Breaks downs in coverage are inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I was pretty impressed by Rex's defense this year before yesterday. It doesn't change the fact last year was a huge disappointment. Additionally, it seems as Rex overthinks thingns agaisnt NE. How many blown defensive assignments were their last year against him? As much as some want to blame him, far more players were screwing up than Gilmore. You can't really read a ton into the defense when we play NE. Brady makes you pay for everything and then still takes more. I saw a stat on twitter (i'm at work and can't post it) that he is 16 for 16 with a 158 yards when he gets rid of the ball in under 2 seconds. Sorry you are not going to do much about that...at all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 What I dont understand about our coverage scheme is why are there so many breakdowns? We have what I believe are 3 above average DBs at their positions, Gilmore, Darby, and NRC. We have a solid pass rush. Keep it simple. Breaks downs in coverage are inexcusable. Because Rex puts in new wrinkles for the NE game to "trick" Brady. The crazy part is that we pressured Brady as much as I ever remember us doing. Breakdowns in coverage and penalties (plus a bad offense) killed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Ed Reed needs to just quit messing around a suit up. Hes the best safety we have on this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 You can't really read a ton into the defense when we play NE. Brady makes you pay for everything and then still takes more. I saw a stat on twitter (i'm at work and can't post it) that he is 16 for 16 with a 158 yards when he gets rid of the ball in under 2 seconds. Sorry you are not going to do much about that...at all..... Because Rex puts in new wrinkles for the NE game to "trick" Brady. The crazy part is that we pressured Brady as much as I ever remember us doing. Breakdowns in coverage and penalties (plus a bad offense) killed us. Brady was on fire yesterday. Just like Fitz was against NYJ. Doesn't refute your point, and I don't altogether disagree with what you're saying. But when Brady is on fire...what the !@#$ are you going to do about it? Let's be honest. You can't really read a ton into the defense when we play NE. Brady makes you pay for everything and then still takes more. I saw a stat on twitter (i'm at work and can't post it) that he is 16 for 16 with a 158 yards when he gets rid of the ball in under 2 seconds. Sorry you are not going to do much about that...at all..... He was 8/8 for 149 yards and 2TD's on third down yesterday. We'd be over the moon to get that kind of production from TT in a GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Brady was on fire yesterday. Just like Fitz was against NYJ. Doesn't refute your point, and I don't altogether disagree with what you're saying. But when Brady is on fire...what the !@#$ are you going to do about it? Let's be honest. He was 8/8 for 149 yards and 2TD's on third down yesterday. We'd be over the moon to get that kind of production from TT in a GAME. I don't disagree at all. With our offense, we were screwed once they got past 20 points. I do thin kRex overthinks things but we got owned by the best qb in NFL history. I can't kill him for that. Rex has done a great job with the defense this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 What I dont understand about our coverage scheme is why are there so many breakdowns? We have what I believe are 3 above average DBs at their positions, Gilmore, Darby, and NRC. We have a solid pass rush. Keep it simple. Breaks downs in coverage are inexcusable. Because Rex's playbook requires a lot of switching on the fly based on pre-snap looks. An entire coverage scheme can be altered by one guy flexing into the slot. Communication isn't simply a buzz word; it's an essential component right up to snap. It's unfortunate, but Aaron Williams was a key in terms of communicating responsibilities. There's a massive void there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Brady was on fire yesterday. Just like Fitz was against NYJ. Doesn't refute your point, and I don't altogether disagree with what you're saying. But when Brady is on fire...what the !@#$ are you going to do about it? Let's be honest. He was 8/8 for 149 yards and 2TD's on third down yesterday. We'd be over the moon to get that kind of production from TT in a GAME. Hands down he is the best QB I have ever seen and I feel disgusting for saying it. The only thing you can do is jam the WRs at the line and hopefully crush him in under 2 seconds and pray that a penalty or a rushing play stalls them out. After that you have no choice but to score a TD on every possession and play a perfect game. That is definitely not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Because Rex's playbook requires a lot of switching on the fly based on pre-snap looks. An entire coverage scheme can be altered by one guy flexing into the slot. Communication isn't simply a buzz word; it's an essential component right up to snap. It's unfortunate, but Aaron Williams was a key in terms of communicating responsibilities. There's a massive void there now. I know all that, I dont understand why? Its why Schwartz worked so well here, he had the talent play, not think. If you have the talent you dont need to scheme as much, Rex just cant figure that out, or maybe he doesn't want to step back and let the players play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Brady was on fire yesterday. Just like Fitz was against NYJ. Doesn't refute your point, and I don't altogether disagree with what you're saying. But when Brady is on fire...what the !@#$ are you going to do about it? Let's be honest. If you have the firepower, you get into a shootout. But most teams dont have that so.... You play ball control Offense and keep the ball away from him.(and score ofcourse) On D, you depend on your front 4 to provide the pressure and cover gronk with LBers, no cheating by the safeties, stay with your assignments. This is just off the top of my head. We are hobbled enough to not be able to do what I suggest on Offense but at least on D, there should have been different things done to limit the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) I was pretty impressed by Rex's defense this year before yesterday. It doesn't change the fact last year was a huge disappointment. Additionally, it seems as Rex overthinks thingns agaisnt NE. How many blown defensive assignments were their last year against him? As much as some want to blame him, far more players were screwing up than Gilmore. I wasn't impressed with the Buffalo defense against the Jets and 374 passing yards to Fitz. Almost 40 min of time of possession by the Jets to the Bills 20:48 as the Bills D couldn't get off the field. Plus, 493 yards of total offense given up to the NY Jets in week 2!! Come to think of it I wasn't very happy in giving Jay Ajayi 214 yards rushing either! The Dolphins averaging 6.8 yards per rush from those smelly fish in week 8. Currently, the Bills defense is ranked 23rd in the NFL, 18th passing, 26th rushing. The Bills might lead the NFL in sacks with 26 (5 more than last years total after 8 games) This team has more problems than Gilmore. This year's defense reminds me of 2013 and Mike Pettine. Edited October 31, 2016 by Nihilarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 I was pretty impressed by Rex's defense this year before yesterday. It doesn't change the fact last year was a huge disappointment. Additionally, it seems as Rex overthinks thingns agaisnt NE. How many blown defensive assignments were their last year against him? As much as some want to blame him, far more players were screwing up than Gilmore. so you enjoyed watching that JETS game? so you enjoyed watching that JETS game? and the way Miami just pushed us around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Currently, the Bills defense is ranked 23rd in the NFL, 18th passing, 26th rushing. The Bills might lead the NFL in sacks with 26 (5 more than last years total after 8 games) This team has more problems than Gilmore. This year's defense reminds me of 2013 and Mike Pettine. The 2013 Defense ended up being bad against the run but solid against the pass. The end-season rankings were run D # 28, pass D #4, Overall D #10 So, this D overall is well below the one in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I wasn't impressed with the Buffalo defense against the Jets and 374 passing yards to Fitz. Almost 40 min of time of possession by the Jets to the Bills 20:48 as the Bills D couldn't get off the field. Plus, 493 yards of total offense given up to the NY Jets in week 2!! Come to think of it I wasn't very happy in giving Jay Ajayi 214 yards rushing either! The Dolphins averaging 6.8 yards per rush from those smelly fish in week 8. Currently, the Bills defense is ranked 23rd in the NFL, 18th passing, 26th rushing. The Bills might lead the NFL in sacks with 26 (5 more than last years total after 8 games) This team has more problems than Gilmore. This year's defense reminds me of 2013 and Mike Pettine. They're also 13th in points per game allowed, for the record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Good stuff! GTFO Gilmore! Can't wait 'til he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 He will get $12M plus (easily) and closer to an average of $15M a year. He hasn't played to that level IMO. There are some people here that I really respect though that feel differently. Gilmore is good to very good but not great (awful yesterday). I don't think this happens. He has been absolutely awful this season. Other teams QB's are regularly targeting him on 3rd downs. First drive Hogan beats him on a 3rd and 10 for an out route. It wasn't like Brady made some great throw, Gilmore was 7 yards away when he caught it. Second drive and Chris Hogan is running by him wide open for a 53 yard TD, and whether it was his fault or not (his fault according to Rex) before the play is even over he is looking to place the blame on anyone but himself. He is a me guy, a primma donna, who wants to be paid like the best when he is above average. He is a big corner, but he plays as soft as they come. He is not a lock down corner and despite his size he is a very poor tackler. Not only has he been beat frequently on 3rd downs in the passing game, he has missed many tackles on 3rd down runs, where he just wan't willing to take the pain of sticking his head in there and making a tackle. Not to mention, I'm sure his teammates love him with his blame game antics. He may get a big contract from somebody, but if he does, then you know that GM is no better is no better than your average poster because anyone who would sign an above average (this season very bad) corner, who can't tackle and is getting beaten on the deep ball by Chris freaking Hogan, is obviously not watching tape and signing players on reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 As much as Gilmore sucked and others DBs struggled yesterday, is anyone going to give credit to Brady and his receivers for making plays? Christ, the other team has good players, too. On both of Brady's long strikes, he made great reads, and even better throws. Tip your hat to the other guy when it's warranted. It's easier on the soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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