Bill from NYC Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 As I have said from day 1, Gilmore was a dumb draft selection. Teams play with 4 or 5 wide on a routine basis. Why would any team want to give a not so great corner a huge contract? Don't get me wrong, Gilmore is good, but I heard the same thing about Whitner. These guys do not often win games for an NFL team. Quarterbacks, pass rushers, blockers and wide receivers matter far more than defensive backs. I hope that he walks and we get the comp. pick, or that he is traded. He would need to be replaced, but hopefully not in the first round. After all of these years, it's time to put the brakes on the first round defensive back merry go round. Records do speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 As I have said from day 1, Gilmore was a dumb draft selection. Teams play with 4 or 5 wide on a routine basis. Why would any team want to give a not so great corner a huge contract? Don't get me wrong, Gilmore is good, but I heard the same thing about Whitner. These guys do not often win games for an NFL team. Quarterbacks, pass rushers, blockers and wide receivers matter far more than defensive backs. I hope that he walks and we get the comp. pick, or that he is traded. He would need to be replaced, but hopefully not in the first round. After all of these years, it's time to put the brakes on the first round defensive back merry go round. Records do speak for themselves. I'm not sure I can fault them for the pick Bill. Gilmore has the tools to be great, and has shown flashes of greatness. He is just a little B word. He lacks the compete. I can't put that on the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills7834 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Do you think maybe he was pointing fingers because the backup safety blew the coverage? Or did you make up your mind already? If the starting CB is yelling at the safety right on the field, and then the starting safety (Williams) gives the backup the "point at the eyes" gesture when he comes to the sideline? Yeah, I'd say Meeks blew it. I have no doubt that Meeks blew it. I also have no doubt that Gilmore turn and gave up on the play when he could have still tackled Hogan. I have always been a Gilmore supporter but his play has slipped this year tremendously. It could be him playing softer to avoid injury for his upcoming payday as some have mentioned or something else. All I know is his play is not worth top money. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Bandit, I agree all the greats get beat sometime. I want to flip it back on you, give your top 5 elite corners. Then see if any have had two terrible games out of 8. As much as I'd like to research the heck out of this, I'm a bit short on time this week, so here's my abbreviated answer... I think most of us would agree that Josh Norman is a top-5 NFL CB. He's the highest-paid, was ranked #1 by PFF (take or leave that), and is widely lauded as being top-tier. He had a phenomenal first 2 weeks, then gave up 5 receptions for 88 yards to Beckham in week 3, followed by 4 receptions for 48 yards and a TD to Terrelle Pryor in the first half of week 4. He had some other struggles since then, giving up a few big completions to Jordan Matthews and a few others, but none bigger than the Marvin Jones 52-yard catch that set up Detroit's victory versus Washington in Week 7 (a play in which Norman was beat badly enough that he had to interfere with Jones, but still couldn't stop the big play from happening). Point is, good players get beat, and it happens quite regularly. Even to the best. The comment to which I replied was that truly great corners do not ever get beat, and that's complete hogwash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Darby has regressed this year and is still worse than Gilmore (maybe Donnie Henderson wasnt so bad Rex) But i am getting there that i cant be hypocritical. So if Tyrod needs to go (he does). So doesnt Gilmore Edited November 1, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 So what's up w/ Gilmore... why did he erase all images of himself in Bills gear and anything Bills related from his Instagram ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 So what's up w/ Gilmore... why did he erase all images of himself in Bills gear and anything Bills related from his Instagram ? Might be as innocent as he's scaling back his social media presence because some people are vile little rats that feel the need to abuse him and his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 This is a big reason I don't much care for Rex Ryan. He might be a players coach and the players love him. But the players don't look to play their hearts out for him like they did for Jauron. Great coaches don't let this type of stuff happen. Yea Rex should climb into his brain and make him do stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Who is this Gilmore we are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Aaand Gilmore has deleted all Bills related Instagram posts and changed his Twitter avi. Edited November 1, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Aaand Gilmore has deleted all Bills related Instagram posts and changed his Twitter avi. Was his Twitter always private or is that recent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Gilmore is a little whiny chump. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Gilmore is a little whiny chump. Good riddance.And when the defense regresses without him we can switch out hate to Darby Seeing he is worse than Gilmore Edited November 1, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 And when the defense regresses without him we can switch out hate to Darby Seeing he is worse than Gilmore Come on Bobby, that won't happen until 2018. Only run them out when new deals approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Yes, lets keep Gilmore and pay him 17 million per year. He cant play with heart and passion on his contract year, imagine after receiving the big bucks. Starts with the top: 1- Fire Rex Ryan 2 - Get a Quarterback The rest falls into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Yes, lets keep Gilmore and pay him 17 million per year. He cant play with heart and passion on his contract year, imagine after receiving the big bucks. I'd pay him $25m a year just to watch you react to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 And when the defense regresses without him we can switch out hate to Darby Seeing he is worse than Gilmore It's his 2nd year and I haven't heard him placing blame on his teammates and finger pointing while the ball is still live. Gilmore brought whatever BS he is getting on himself. He is cocky on the outside but soft on the inside. The only one that gets more toast than Blokes and Gunner is Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I'd pay him $25m a year just to watch you react to it. The only reaction you would get could be found in the SHout Box after every terrible play he would make: SG24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 It's his 2nd year and I haven't heard him placing blame on his teammates and finger pointing while the ball is still live. Gilmore brought whatever BS he is getting on himself. He is cocky on the outside but soft on the inside. The only one that gets more toast than Blokes and Gunner is Gilmore. Ok be worse on the field but keep your mouth Shut and Bills fans love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 It's his 2nd year and I haven't heard him placing blame on his teammates and finger pointing while the ball is still live. Gilmore brought whatever BS he is getting on himself. He is cocky on the outside but soft on the inside. The only one that gets more toast than Blokes and Gunner is Gilmore. I literally don't know how I can make it clearer. Darby has been burned more than Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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