NoSaint Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Those stats don't include running yards. Or lack of. they do not. and he is down in that regard. both in attempts and ypc. i debated including them, but wanted to stick to discussing his passing skill level primarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Yes that explains it Defensive coordinator's are of course stupid and need an off season to figure all this out.....they cant figure it out in season last year. Tendency Scouting that does take an offseason. Need enough sample size to figure out those tendencies. Hence why you hear people say well they got a full year of tape etc. same reason the WildCat was dead after one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 It does seem like he has missed a bunch of easy throws that should have been completions, but that's just a subjective observation. Don't remember him doing that last year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Tendency Scouting that does take an offseason. Need enough sample size to figure out those tendencies. Hence why you hear people say well they got a full year of tape etc. same reason the WildCat was dead after one year. As a side note, welcome to the board!! I know that you haven't been here long but you have turned out a lot of solid contributions already. I really look forward to what you are going to bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 As a side note, welcome to the board!! I know that you haven't been here long but you have turned out a lot of solid contributions already. I really look forward to what you are going to bring. Appreciate it. I know I may come off as real critical of Tyrod and that might turn people off, but I will call it like I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Tyrod hasn't shown any in-game consistency. He plays pretty crappy for long periods and then has a series or two where he plays well or hits a long pass. He's been like that for 18 games. Hasn't improved (yet) and hasn't regressed (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 they do not. and he is down in that regard. both in attempts and ypc. i debated including them, but wanted to stick to discussing his passing skill level primarily. At this point - he needs to run more. A lot more. Call some designed QB runs on plays other than 3rd and 1 - etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The A22 has been brutal for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The A22 has been brutal for him. That's exactly the kind of routine intermediate throw that can't be missed. Those are drive killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 It does seem like he has missed a bunch of easy throws that should have been completions, but that's just a subjective observation. Don't remember him doing that last year though. i hear you -- i do know he had a stretch early of very high completion percentage games, but also went over a month without cracking 60% for a game. maybe we were hung up on the first impressions and discounted some of the later stuff that didnt fit that? not trying to push an agenda with that comment, but do know first impressions are big in human perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The A22 has been brutal for him. Is that clay over the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The A22 has been brutal for him. I don't have an issue with the read. Both guys were wide open. I have an issue with the accuracy. Those are the exact throws that I don't remember him missing last year. Hopefully it changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Too small a sample size, but he is not as good stat wise through two games this year as he was last year. But stats aren't always the best barometer when it comes to measuring a QB's progress or regression when there is so much more to QBing than passing the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I don't have an issue with the read. Both guys were wide open. I have an issue with the accuracy. Those are the exact throws that I don't remember him missing last year. Hopefully it changes Maybe that's the problem. Both guys were wide open and he couldn't decide and threw it poorly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Is that clay over the middle? Yeah, it was at a time where we wanted to conserve clock, so the read was Goodwin on the sideline. Figured he'd come out of the break harder towards the sideline, but instead turned into a missed dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) The A22 has been brutal for him. did you feel he was making those intermediate throws better last year? last year on passes thrown 11-20 yards ESPN splits put him at 49.1%, 1 TD, and 2 INT with a rating of 71.3, hes weakest interval this year on passes thrown 11-20 he is at 60% (only 3/5 so a small sample... but lack of attempts in that range is one of the bigger passing differences weve hit in the chat yet) Edited September 19, 2016 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 did you feel he was making those intermediate throws better last year? last year on passes thrown 11-20 yards ESPN splits put him at 49.1%, 1 TD, and 2 INT with a rating of 71.3, hes weakest interval this year on passes thrown 11-20 he is at 60% (only 3/5 so a small sample... but lack of attempts in that range is one of the bigger passing differences weve hit in the chat yet) I wonder if the regression of the running game is impacting perception as well? The Bills are not moving the ball on the ground like last year (including Tyrod). It felt like he was trying to play off of the running game while this year it feels like it is more on his shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) did you feel he was making those intermediate throws better last year? last year on passes thrown 11-20 yards ESPN splits put him at 49.1%, 1 TD, and 2 INT with a rating of 71.3, hes weakest interval this year on passes thrown 11-20 he is at 60% (only 3/5 so a small sample... but lack of attempts in that range is one of the bigger passing differences weve hit in the chat yet) I don't have the stat sheet so need to ask, those are "air yards" and not completed yards right? Edited September 19, 2016 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) I don't have an issue with the read. Both guys were wide open. I have an issue with the accuracy. Those are the exact throws that I don't remember him missing last year. Hopefully it changesI have an issue with the read big time, both pre and post snap. That is just not NFL caliber. EDIT: someone up thread posted that play occurred when we were trying to conserve time on the clock, so I can forgive it if that is the case. I'm assuming we already wasted TOs that prevented us from being able to exploit the middle, too. Edited September 19, 2016 by K-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 I don't have the stat sheet so need to ask, those are "air yards" and not completed yards right? ESPN has it under "pass thrown 11-20 yards" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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