SWATeam Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I think the Jets QB situation is interesting, and I like their strategy. They have Fitz, Geno, Petty and Hack. They keep investing high picks at the position and are throwing numbers at the problem, maybe one hits. It's not so much about the actual players for me, I don't really like any of them, but more the organizational strategy. QB is the most important position in all of pro sports- all teams should take this approach... ESPECIALLY a team with a near two decade long drought of anything even resembling capable play. I believe that streak is over but investment in the position needs to continue. I like the Cardale pick and I think we should continue to take one each year. IMO the lack of investment at QB is the biggest contributing factor for the playoff drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I think the Jets QB situation is interesting, and I like their strategy. They have Fitz, Geno, Petty and Hack. They keep investing high picks at the position and are throwing numbers at the problem, maybe one hits. It's not so much about the actual players for me, I don't really like any of them, but more the organizational strategy. QB is the most important position in all of pro sports- all teams should take this approach... ESPECIALLY a team with a near two decade long drought of anything even resembling capable play. I believe that streak is over but investment in the position needs to continue. I like the Cardale pick and I think we should continue to take one each year. IMO the lack of investment at QB is the biggest contributing factor for the playoff drought. I don't think the example helps your case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 I don't think the example helps your case. We'll see how it plays out, I don't really like any of them but I've been wrong before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 This just proves how bad the Jets are at drafting QB's. But hey, if at first you don't succeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 If you dont have a number 1 then you got none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 If you dont have a number 1 then you got none I'm saying even if you have one, like I think we do now, keep taking them. The position is that important. And if you don't have one, like we didn't for years, you need to constantly address it in the form of multiple high picks. We should have taken many more QB's through the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 They have 4 backups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I'm saying even if you have one, like I think we do now, keep taking them. The position is that important. And if you don't have one, like we didn't for years, you need to constantly address it in the form of multiple high picks. We should have taken many more QB's through the years. In my opinion when you have 1 like we do.....it gives you the luxury to let QB talent come to you in the draft. That is why while C. Jones looks so damn raw.....his physical talents are so incredible that it was a good pick this last year....he hardly played any football in college.....has a acme rocket attacked to his body.....has LB size....can run...... I like what the bills have done here...and I dont think it shoud prevent us from doing the same thing next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 In my opinion when you have 1 like we do.....it gives you the luxury to let QB talent come to you in the draft. That is why while C. Jones looks so damn raw.....his physical talents are so incredible that it was a good pick this last year....he hardly played any football in college.....has a acme rocket attacked to his body.....has LB size....can run...... I like what the bills have done here...and I dont think it shoud prevent us from doing the same thing next year. Good point. Less pressure for immediate impact when you have an established guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 It is always tough when you don't have a clear #1. Spending a #2 every year (I know Petty was a 4th) will eventually hurt your depth at other positions. You can only have so many QBs on your roster at one time, and often a QB needs a couple years to acclimate. You may wind up getting rid of a guy too soon without them seeing any meaningful play time. Realistically, you have to find a guy your staff believes in and is willing to invest a few years on. If they are ready to go immediately, great, otherwise you need a stable vet to groom them under. You can't keep cycling through QBs year-to-year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 It is always tough when you don't have a clear #1. Spending a #2 every year (I know Petty was a 4th) will eventually hurt your depth at other positions. You can only have so many QBs on your roster at one time, and often a QB needs a couple years to acclimate. You may wind up getting rid of a guy too soon without them seeing any meaningful play time. Realistically, you have to find a guy your staff believes in and is willing to invest a few years on. If they are ready to go immediately, great, otherwise you need a stable vet to groom them under. You can't keep cycling through QBs year-to-year. I think you can. If it hurts you short term, so what? You pick higher until you find your guy, the position is that important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I think you can. If it hurts you short term, so what? You pick higher until you find your guy, the position is that important I think the point is that if you don't have a line to protect him or a WR to throw to then you might not be able to assess accurately. If you're picking a QB high (QB's in the later rounds rarely pan out), then your sacrificing resources that could/need to be spent other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 I think the point is that if you don't have a line to protect him or a WR to throw to then you might not be able to assess accurately. If you're picking a QB high (QB's in the later rounds rarely pan out), then your sacrificing resources that could/need to be spent other positions. Good point as well. A QB may not develop on a poor team. There really is no formula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Good point as well. A QB may not develop on a poor team. There really is no formula Its tough for sure. I like JfH post on the subject. If you have a #1 its great because you should still take potential, but you can let the draft come to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 It's worked out so well for them they the spend the entire summer slowly caving to Fitz's will, rather than going with any of those future insurance salesmen and casino greeters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I think the Jets QB situation is interesting, and I like their strategy. They have Fitz, Geno, Petty and Hack. They keep investing high picks at the position and are throwing numbers at the problem, maybe one hits. It's not so much about the actual players for me, I don't really like any of them, but more the organizational strategy. QB is the most important position in all of pro sports- all teams should take this approach... ESPECIALLY a team with a near two decade long drought of anything even resembling capable play. I believe that streak is over but investment in the position needs to continue. I like the Cardale pick and I think we should continue to take one each year. IMO the lack of investment at QB is the biggest contributing factor for the playoff drought. Any post that includes the words "Fitz" and "ending playoff drought" is contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 you suck if you can't beat out journeyman Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 They have 4 backups For those who want to draft a QB every year, this is one possible outcome. You gotta have a good one, but you can only keep so many, and you don't know right away who might pan out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 This just proves how bad the Jets are at drafting QB's. But hey, if at first you don't succeed... From a Bills fan no less. But I guess we do have enough experience to know what a bad QB draft pick looks like ? I'm saying even if you have one, like I think we do now, keep taking them. The position is that important. And if you don't have one, like we didn't for years, you need to constantly address it in the form of multiple high picks. We should have taken many more QB's through the years. Signing TT to the extension, and drafting Cardale looks kinda smart then? Honest question bud. I think the point is that if you don't have a line to protect him or a WR to throw to then you might not be able to assess accurately. If you're picking a QB high (QB's in the later rounds rarely pan out), then your sacrificing resources that could/need to be spent other positions. There more to it then that of course. But when you factor in Coaching, GM, owner. Turnover of said parties, the QB can be a complicated affair to reach fruition. Read an article today from PFT ( probably Florio) saying that if GM and HC change from not making the playoffs Tyrod may not be the guy long term anyways. If you consider that from a different angle, there is no point in drafting a QB each year if a team keeps shifting the goalpost. It a messed up way of doing business. But it continues to bring in revenue and the shareholders are delighted on their returns It's worked out so well for them they the spend the entire summer slowly caving to Fitz's will, rather than going with any of those future insurance salesmen and casino greeters. Just because the Jests have not succeeded does not mean it is not a valid plan of action. Does it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I think the Jets QB situation is interesting, and I like their strategy. They have Fitz, Geno, Petty and Hack. They keep investing high picks at the position and are throwing numbers at the problem, maybe one hits. It's not so much about the actual players for me, I don't really like any of them, but more the organizational strategy. QB is the most important position in all of pro sports- all teams should take this approach... ESPECIALLY a team with a near two decade long drought of anything even resembling capable play. I believe that streak is over but investment in the position needs to continue. I like the Cardale pick and I think we should continue to take one each year. IMO the lack of investment at QB is the biggest contributing factor for the playoff drought. So you're ok with drafting bad QBs with high picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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