YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Houston for a QB? I was thinking NYG at 23 if OJ Howard was still around but they might not part with a 1st with Eli getting older. they have Geno now so, all set there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 They always have a ton of elite talent, i would like anyone drafted from there. They usually underachieved but maybe now that Les is gone they will do something with it. with O'Brien in limbo, I bet he'd pull that trigger. He has no idea if he will even be there next year to deal with the lost pick. Houston for a QB? I was thinking NYG at 23 if OJ Howard was still around but they might not part with a 1st with Eli getting older. Yep...Houston's cupboard is bare. For a team that is getting Watt back, already had a very good defense, and is set offensive at seemingly every other position, it makes them a prime contender to make an aggressive move to get a potential franchise signal-caller in the fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) they have Geno now so, all set there You jest but I think Geno was about to turn the corner when IK decked him. Not franchise level but better than the crap pile he had been. I have a couple of guys I want to drop into the 20's for the fits. Oakland for Fournette and NYG for Njoku. Edited March 28, 2017 by Blokestradamus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Yep...Houston's cupboard is bare. For a team that is getting Watt back, already had a very good defense, and is set offensive at seemingly every other position, it makes them a prime contender to make an aggressive move to get a potential franchise signal-caller in the fold. Houston has always made the most sense for this. 10 & a 5th this year for 25, a 2nd and next year's 1st (something like that). Edited March 28, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Not sure it's been discussed but..........how far would we have to trade down to pick up a 2018 1st rounder? I'd rather get picks this year but it might be good QB ammo if they like the Great White Hopes in the '18 class. Based entirely on the trade chart values: 1) TENN gives 1:18 (900) & 2018 1st (420) for 1320 BUF gives 1:10 (1300) & 5:27 (22.6) for 1322.6 Bills Picks: 1:18, 2:12, 3:11, 5:12, 6:11, TENN 2018 1st Round Pick 2) ATL gives 1:31 (600), 2:31 (276), & 2018 1st (420) for 1296 BUF gives 1:10 for 1300 Bills Picks: 1:31, 2:12, 2:31, 3:11, 5:12, 5:27, 6:11, ATL 2018 1st Round Pick 3) HOU gives 1:25 (720), 2018 1st (420), 3:25 (145), 4:23 (42) for 1327 BUF gives 1:10 (1300) & 5:12 (28.6) for 1328.6 Bills Picks: 1:25, 2:12, 3:11, 3:25, 4:23, 5:27, 6:11, HOU 2018 1st Round Pick 4) NYG gives 1:23 (760), 2018 1st (420), 3:23 (155) for 1335 BUF gives 1:10 (1300), 5:27 (22.6), & 6:11 (13) for 1335.6 Bills Picks: 1:23, 2:12, 3:11, 3:23, 5:12, NYG 2018 1st Round Pick Edited March 28, 2017 by BuffaloHokie13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Based entirely on the trade chart values: 1) TENN gives 1:18 (900) & 2018 1st (420) for 1320 BUF gives 1:10 (1300) & 5:27 (22.6) for 1322.6 Bills Picks: 1:18, 2:12, 3:11, 5:12, 6:11, TENN 2018 1st Round Pick 2) ATL gives 1:31 (600), 2:31 (276), & 2018 1st (420) for 1296 BUF gives 1:10 for 1300 Bills Picks: 1:31, 2:12, 2:31, 3:11, 5:12, 5:27, 6:11, ATL 2018 1st Round Pick 3) HOU gives 1:25 (720), 2018 1st (420), 3:25 (145), 4:23 (42) for 1327 BUF gives 1:10 (1300) & 5:12 (28.6) for 1328.6 Bills Picks: 1:25, 2:12, 3:11, 3:25, 4:23, 5:27, 6:11, HOU 2018 1st Round Pick 4) NYG gives 1:23 (760), 2018 1st (420), 3:23 (155) for 1335 BUF gives 1:10 (1300), 5:27 (22.6), & 6:11 (13) for 1335.6 Bills Picks: 1:23, 2:12, 3:11, 3:23, 5:12, 6:11, NYG 2018 1st Round Pick I could kiss you. HOU with an extra 1st and a '17 3rd & 4th would be the ideal mix of current and future planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Based entirely on the trade chart values: 1) TENN gives 1:18 (900) & 2018 1st (420) for 1320 BUF gives 1:10 (1300) & 5:27 (22.6) for 1322.6 Bills Picks: 1:18, 2:12, 3:11, 5:12, 6:11, TENN 2018 1st Round Pick 2) ATL gives 1:31 (600), 2:31 (276), & 2018 1st (420) for 1296 BUF gives 1:10 for 1300 Bills Picks: 1:31, 2:12, 2:31, 3:11, 5:12, 5:27, 6:11, ATL 2018 1st Round Pick 3) HOU gives 1:25 (720), 2018 1st (420), 3:25 (145), 4:23 (42) for 1327 BUF gives 1:10 (1300) & 5:12 (28.6) for 1328.6 Bills Picks: 1:25, 2:12, 3:11, 3:25, 4:23, 5:27, 6:11, HOU 2018 1st Round Pick 4) NYG gives 1:23 (760), 2018 1st (420), 3:23 (155) for 1335 BUF gives 1:10 (1300), 5:27 (22.6), & 6:11 (13) for 1335.6 Bills Picks: 1:23, 2:12, 3:11, 3:23, 5:12, NYG 2018 1st Round Pick This is great stuff Hokie!! The one thing to keep in mind is that the team coming up almost always pays a premium. You will rarely see the team going back have a smaller point value than the team coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) This is great stuff Hokie!! The one thing to keep in mind is that the team coming up almost always pays a premium. You will rarely see the team going back have a smaller point value than the team coming up. Yeah, but we're the Bills and I come from an engineering background. I always err on the conservative side On the HOU side, you could probably swap 5:12 w/ 5:27 (1322.6) For ATL you could add a 6th or 7th probably For NYG you could probably go with 5:12 instead of 5:27 & 6:11 (1328.6) TENN you could probably drop the 5:27 to our 6:11 (1313) Edited March 28, 2017 by BuffaloHokie13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I never had a 1st on Tabor regardless. I have him and White both as 2nd rounders. I don't really have a surprise 1st round grade this year. Still basking in the Deion Jones glow from last year :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I never had a 1st on Tabor regardless. I have him and White both as 2nd rounders. I don't really have a surprise 1st round grade this year. Still basking in the Deion Jones glow from last year :-D My surprise 1st round grades: Adam Shaheen Chidobe Awuzie Josh Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I never had a 1st on Tabor regardless. I have him and White both as 2nd rounders. I don't really have a surprise 1st round grade this year. Still basking in the Deion Jones glow from last year :-D He looks like such an instinctive playmaker... Can he even play corner with that timed speed? My surprise 1st round grades: Adam Shaheen Chidobe Awuzie Josh Jones Don't see it with him. Thought he needed better numbers at the combine due to his level of competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 He looks like such an instinctive playmaker... Can he even play corner with that timed speed? Don't see it with him. Thought he needed better numbers at the combine due to his level of competition. Maybe your barometer for a 6'7", 280 lb guy is off a bit. His strength was best amongst TEs, his 3-cone was close to 7.0, and his shot shuttle was below Njoku's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Maybe your barometer for a 6'7", 280 lb guy is off a bit. His strength was best amongst TEs, his 3-cone was close to 7.0, and his shot shuttle was below Njoku's Maybe so. I didn't think he lived up to the hype leading up to the combine, maybe I'm putting too much on the 40. It's a very deep TE class. I'm pretty sure we grab one in the middle rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Maybe so. I didn't think he lived up to the hype leading up to the combine, maybe I'm putting too much on the 40. It's a very deep TE class. I'm pretty sure we grab one in the middle rounds. I definitely wouldn't be opposed to grabbing a day 3 TE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Tre White at 44, I'm in! Thanks for the link guys. White is billed as a man cover guy and a weak tackler, I'm not sure how well he would fit with what this new staff wants to do. I love the player and don't totally buy that he is soft though. If he is there in the second that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Thanks for the link guys. White is billed as a man cover guy and a weak tackler, I'm not sure how well he would fit with what this new staff wants to do. I love the player and don't totally buy that he is soft though. If he is there in the second that would be great. Conley is also a man cover guy (as is Lattimore) and iffy in run support, but I think he would cover well in zone. Short area burst and can read the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Not to oversimplify things but Tre White can play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Just wanted to give a to everyone contributing to this thread, it's really outstanding work by all. I haven't been able to do my own research this year, so this thread has been a great reference. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 My surprise 1st round grades: Adam Shaheen Chidobe Awuzie Josh Jones Interesting. I am higher than most on Jones but I have a 2nd on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 My surprise 1st round grades: Adam Shaheen Chidobe Awuzie Josh Jones You put a first round grade on Shaheen ?? I love his talent but his level of competition was so low it's hard judge him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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