Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (apologies if this has already been linked, I searched and didn't find it) Janine Talley wrote a piece as a guest columnist that is a "must read". The link to the current Bills is her viewpoint on Sammy Watkins words after the Washington game (she thinks he "gets it"). The piece contains a hysterically funny description of Darryl Talley's reaction to reading a Sully piece grading the Bills players (this would have been about 1986 or so, on a team that was 2-14, 4-12, or 7-8): I watched him read. When I saw him sit up on the edge of the sofa and his eyes go bugged, I knew he’d come to the words “finally reaching mediocrity.” The apartment felt like a doll’s house. The room seemed to shrink around me as Darryl’s angry voice ricocheted off of the walls. [Janine Talley describes it as having a positive outcome - interesting read about the motivational effect bad press can have] But LOL at this. Darryl stayed ticked at Jerry for several years, even contriving with Kent Hull to relentlessly set picks on Jerry at a Bills vs. The Buffalo News charity basketball game. Whenever Darryl or Kent were on offense during that game, they would force Jerry to be bounced off of Darryl’s chest or take an elbow or twelve from Kent. I wonder if these games still take place, and if so, would Sully still play in them? It seems like a great idea to put the players with the press that cover them, an equalizer. If you tick a guy off too far with biased coverage, you get to take a lot of elbows! But I'd imagine injury fears might nix it these days. Anyway, check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Read it and commented. I never would have seen it without your link! Thanks and yes She is quite in tune with what makes a football team great via the individuals who are the make up. I often watch the sidelines to see who is engaged and who is not. Via Tv though. Go Bills ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Life is good for Janine after receiving a $250K handout (apologies if this has already been linked, I searched and didn't find it) Janine Talley wrote a piece as a guest columnist that is a "must read". The link to the current Bills is her viewpoint on Sammy Watkins words after the Washington game (she thinks he "gets it"). The piece contains a hysterically funny description of Darryl Talley's reaction to reading a Sully piece grading the Bills players (this would have been about 1986 or so, on a team that was 2-14, 4-12, or 7-8): I watched him read. When I saw him sit up on the edge of the sofa and his eyes go bugged, I knew he’d come to the words “finally reaching mediocrity.” The apartment felt like a doll’s house. The room seemed to shrink around me as Darryl’s angry voice ricocheted off of the walls. [Janine Talley describes it as having a positive outcome - interesting read about the motivational effect bad press can have] But LOL at this. Darryl stayed ticked at Jerry for several years, even contriving with Kent Hull to relentlessly set picks on Jerry at a Bills vs. The Buffalo News charity basketball game. Whenever Darryl or Kent were on offense during that game, they would force Jerry to be bounced off of Darryl’s chest or take an elbow or twelve from Kent. I wonder if these games still take place, and if so, would Sully still play in them? It seems like a great idea to put the players with the press that cover them, an equalizer. If you tick a guy off too far with biased coverage, you get to take a lot of elbows! But I'd imagine injury fears might nix it these days. Anyway, check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Life is good for Janine after receiving a $250K handout Great takeaway. Regarding those BB games...I would guess that Wawrow sits behind the arc and rarely, if ever goes under the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) Life is good for Janine after receiving a $250K handout Excellent point. Clearly you've had an unfair life and now you're bitter and resentful of others. Charity sucks, close them all because you don't like it. Edited January 24, 2016 by zonabb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Life is good for Janine after receiving a $250K handout Not sure i get your meaning Dawgg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 Life is good for Janine after receiving a $250K handout I'd call you a douche, but I'm afraid Sphere O Beer will thwack me with a rolled up newspaper if I do. It was $153,454, not $250,000. I bet you'd like to live your life so if you were in ill health and broke after a failed business and bad financial judgement, an outpouring of love and admiration from your legion of fans would close a "GoFundMe" down 50% above goal in less than a month. Meanwhile, about that article, you got something? Regarding those BB games...I would guess that Wawrow sits behind the arc and rarely, if ever goes under the boards. LOL hadn't thought of it that way, but I bet you're right. If they're still having those games, I'd watch out for Mario's elbows were I Ty Dunne. "Anonymize THIS, Ty!" Excellent point. Clearly you've had an unfair life and now you're bitter and resentful of others. Charity sucks, close them all because you don't like it. "And other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play - er, article?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) She provides significant insight into what it takes to be a true team. I remember reading how irate Darryl was riding back from London with two members of the current Bills who didn't even acknowledge one another on the flight. I believe there has to be a solid foundation of caring for one another off the field to perform at a high level on the field. There has to be trust, discipline...it will be interesting to see if the kernel of trust that started to emerge the last two weeks -- can grow.. An aside, love the part where Talley and Hull ganged up on Jerry in charity basketball.... Edited January 24, 2016 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 She provides significant insight into what it takes to be a true team. I remember reading how irate Darryl was riding back from London with two members of the current Bills who didn't even acknowledge one another on the flight. I believe there has to be a solid foundation of caring for one another off the field to perform at a high level on the field. There has to be trust, discipline...it will be interesting to see if the kernel of trust that started to emerge the last two weeks -- can grow.. An aside, love the part where Talley and Hull ganged up on Jerry in charity basketball.... I didn't hear this story about 2 players not acknowledging each other and Talley irate, JoeF, where did you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) ................... Edited January 24, 2016 by Fixxxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I didn't hear this story about 2 players not acknowledging each other and Talley irate, JoeF, where did you get it? http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/12/14/bills-great-talley-says-current-team-lacks-sense-of-togetherness/ One scene was particularly alarming to Talley on his trip to London to see the Bills play the Jacksonville Jaguars. No, it wasn’t the ghastly 27-3 deficit Buffalo fell into, the domino fall of turnovers. It was his flight back to the states. There were two players on his commercial flight and the two players, Talley said, didn’t acknowledge each other the entire time. Not a word. One sat in first class, one sat in coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I didn't hear this story about 2 players not acknowledging each other and Talley irate, JoeF, where did you get it? I think it was reported in the week that Talley led the charge. Very illuminating piece at the time. I'm guessing next year we'll find out who that player was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Life is good for Janine after receiving a $250K handout Im trying to not get my 3rd point or I would tell you what I think of that post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Life is good for Janine after receiving a $250K handout Seriously?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Life is good for Janine after receiving a $250K handout Mad no one will pony that up for your bail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/12/14/bills-great-talley-says-current-team-lacks-sense-of-togetherness/ One scene was particularly alarming to Talley on his trip to London to see the Bills play the Jacksonville Jaguars. No, it wasn’t the ghastly 27-3 deficit Buffalo fell into, the domino fall of turnovers. It was his flight back to the states. There were two players on his commercial flight and the two players, Talley said, didn’t acknowledge each other the entire time. Not a word. One sat in first class, one sat in coach. Thanks, Joe! I missed that - good read. Interesting. I wonder what the story was behind 1 guy coach and 1 guy 1st class. Anyone know how teams normally travel to that London game? I woulda thought the team would charter a plane. I can't imagine what it would be like for a football player having to be shoved into a coach seat for 9 hrs just after playing football, in pain and bruised up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Had a great brunch yesterday with Darryl and Janine Talley and the wife of former Bills safety Leonard Smith at the Left Bank. We talked about a lot of things and shared some good laughs. Darryl looks great and the Talleys are doing absolutely wonderful. Thought you all might enjoy the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Had a great brunch yesterday with Darryl and Janine Talley and the wife of former Bills safety Leonard Smith at the Left Bank. We talked about a lot of things and shared some good laughs. Darryl looks great and the Talleys are doing absolutely wonderful. Thought you all might enjoy the update. image.jpg Thanks for the update, Chevy! I hope getting coordinated and specialized medical treatment continues to make a difference in their lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Had a great brunch yesterday with Darryl and Janine Talley and the wife of former Bills safety Leonard Smith at the Left Bank. We talked about a lot of things and shared some good laughs. Darryl looks great and the Talleys are doing absolutely wonderful. Thought you all might enjoy the update. image.jpg Good to hear Chevy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Thanks for the update, Chevy! I hope getting coordinated and specialized medical treatment continues to make a difference in their lives! It is. Also they were able to buy an affordable house and get out from the upside/down rent scenario they were trapped in. Darryl is in a far better place than he was a year and a half ago and it is completely due to the Bills and Mountaineer fan bases. Who knows what the future holds, but, right now, this story has a very happy ending. Thank you all that circled the wagons for Darryl, you're all the cat's pajamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Thats awesome Chevy! Thats great to hear that they are doing well CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Regarding those BB games...I would guess that Wawrow sits behind the arc and rarely, if ever goes under the boards. ...and Graham trips opposing players as they're trying to run up court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Had a great brunch yesterday with Darryl and Janine Talley and the wife of former Bills safety Leonard Smith at the Left Bank. We talked about a lot of things and shared some good laughs. Darryl looks great and the Talleys are doing absolutely wonderful. Thought you all might enjoy the update. image.jpg great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Just as long as Rodak is getting an occasional elbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 It is. Also they were able to buy an affordable house and get out from the upside/down rent scenario they were trapped in. Darryl is in a far better place than he was a year and a half ago and it is completely due to the Bills and Mountaineer fan bases. Who knows what the future holds, but, right now, this story has a very happy ending. Thank you all that circled the wagons for Darryl, you're all the cat's pajamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I'd call you a douche, but I'm afraid Sphere O Beer will thwack me with a rolled up newspaper if I do. I get a little latitude, though. Dawgg, you're a !@#$ing idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Had a great brunch yesterday with Darryl and Janine Talley and the wife of former Bills safety Leonard Smith at the Left Bank. We talked about a lot of things and shared some good laughs. Darryl looks great and the Talleys are doing absolutely wonderful. Thought you all might enjoy the update. image.jpg I always always enjoy good news Thanks again for getting this rolling to begin with. We did a fine thing I believe. I am proud to have participated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Wasn't sure I should start a new thread for this, but here's some more love for Sammy. 9. Two different Buffalo Bills coaches had insane raves about Sammy Watkins. When not in front of the press with a camera, coaches will be fairly candid. (I've heard stars trashed, for example). They LOVE Sammy Watkins. One coach said to me, "Top-five wide receiver next year. Just watch." http://espn.go.com/fantasy/football/story/_/id/14868625/thoughts-sammy-watkins-dorial-green-beckham-couple-sleepers-fantasy-football Let's hope the offense with Sammy can hit the ground running this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) Why are you doing this? Why is it, when caught being an idiot, so many people double-down on their idiocy? Put down the shovel, climb out of the hole, and walk away. Edited March 1, 2016 by Beerball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) Those same folks felt that the Talley's deserved such fortune. Who do you think donated? Did you donate? Edited March 1, 2016 by Beerball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Do us all a favor and just ignore this topic. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Those same folks felt that the Talley's deserved such fortune. Who do you think donated? Did you donate? Therein lies the irony, which certainly isn't lost on me. After all, fandom doesn't always follow logic: here we are, spending time on a message board whose primary topic of conversation pertains to an organization that ranks among the most inept in all of professional sports Do us all a favor and just ignore this topic. Seriously. Amazing. My post got deleted. Nothing in my post violated the terms of service. Guess some moderators can't handle the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) Therein lies the irony, which certainly isn't lost on me. After all, fandom doesn't always follow logic: here we are, spending time on a message board whose primary topic of conversation pertains to an organization that ranks among the most inept in all of professional sports I don't understand your gripe. Folks in WNY enjoyed watching a player who played for their favorite team and chose to donate money to give him a hand. Where is the irony? Also, nice Bills jab. They aren't good. Folks are fans of teams that play in the same geographical location where they either lived or grew up. How is that illogical? Edited March 1, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) I don't understand your gripe. Folks in WNY enjoyed watching a player who played for their favorite team and chose to donate money to give him a hand. Where is the irony? Also, nice Bills jab. They aren't good. Groundbreaking! Here's the deal: I love Talley - true warrior, exemplified everything that was great about those Bills teams. I also love the fans' gesture - generosity at its finest. My gripe is this: it's hard to feel sympathy for the Talleys when they continued to live beyond their means despite a financial situation that was so dire, they were evicted from their home. Janine then receives help from Daryl's former teammates (another great gesture) and uses the money to rent a home in a gated community overlooking a golf course. With Daryl in such dire need for medical help, one would think there are better uses for those funds. Edited March 1, 2016 by Dawgg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Wow. A couple of things I didn't expect in this thread: a moron denigrating an outreach to an ex-Bill in need, and me agreeing with Firechan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Wow. A couple of things I didn't expect in this thread: a moron denigrating an outreach to an ex-Bill in need, and me agreeing with Firechan. Denigrating the outreach? Not so much. Questioning the Talleys' unnecessary extravagance leading up to the outreach? Absolutely. You're such a moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) Here's the deal: I love Talley - true warrior, exemplified everything that was great about those Bills teams. I also love the fans' gesture - generosity at its finest. My gripe is this: it's hard to feel sympathy for the Talleys when they continued to live beyond their means despite a financial situation that was so dire, they were evicted from their home. Janine then receives help from Daryl's former teammates (another great gesture) and uses the money to rent a home in a gated community overlooking a golf course. With Daryl in such dire need for medical help, one would think there are better uses for those funds. Do you know that they are now living beyond their means? It sounds to me like they are living in a smaller house. And IIRC, Talley was given a position by the Bills, so I assume there's some greater financial stability for their family. Further more, do you understand the impact such a gesture has on a medical outcome? AFAIK, we don't know how much treatment he is receiving currently as compared to back then, and the change in cost. I find your backtracking from "If only some Blue Collar WNYers received such good fortune," to "I don't think the Talley's are living within their means" to be nothing short of laughable. Your original post was a healthy mix of crude, venom and an angle that the Talley's don't deserve help GIVEN FREELY BY OTHER FANS WHO THINK THEY DO. If you really "loved" Talley, you failed to show it in any meaningful way by directing such a comment to his wife. Your post was deleted because Beerball didn't want this thread, which by most posts is filled with honest goodness for the Talley's and their improving situation, to go down a rabbit hole of negativity. Frankly, behavior like your original post has a negative impact on the community on this message board, and per the TOS can be deleted for that reason, and others. Wow. A couple of things I didn't expect in this thread: a moron denigrating an outreach to an ex-Bill in need, and me agreeing with Firechan. I didn't expect to find out that you saying you ignored me was all for show. Edited March 1, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) Do you know that they are now living beyond their means? It sounds to me like they are living in a smaller house. And IIRC, Talley was given a position by the Bills, so I assume there's some greater financial stability for their family. Further more, do you understand the impact such a gesture has on a medical outcome? AFAIK, we don't know how much treatment he is receiving currently as compared to back then, and the change in cost. I find your backtracking from "If only some Blue Collar WNYers received such good fortune," to "I don't think the Talley's are living within their means" to be nothing short of laughable. Your original post was a healthy mix of crude, venom and an angle that the Talley's don't deserve help GIVEN FREELY BY OTHER FANS WHO THINK THEY DO. If you really "loved" Talley, you failed to show it in any meaningful way by directing such a comment to his wife. Your post was deleted because Beerball didn't want this thread, which by most posts is filled with honest goodness for the Talley's and their improving situation, to go down a rabbit hole of negativity. Frankly, behavior like your original post has a negative impact on the community on this message board, and per the TOS can be deleted for that reason, and others. I didn't expect to find out that you saying you ignored me was all for show. Not backtracking at all. I have no knowledge as to how they're living today. I can only go by the article that Graham wrote as a primary source. And in that article, it clearly states that the Talley's were (a) evicted from their home, (b) in dire financial straits, and © accepting money from friends and family to rent a posh home in a gated community overlooking a golf course. My love for Daryl as a player notwithstanding, I find it hard to sympathize given their extravagant lifestyle in the face of financial hardship. His wife in particular was not in the least bit shy about seeking financial assistance from his former teammates (which is great). But, when she then spends it to afford herself a luxurious living situation in home overlooking a golf course, I question her intentions given the bigger issues that were in play. And thanks, by the way, for engaging with me in a discussion about this rather than resorting to name calling. Edited March 1, 2016 by Dawgg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 My gripe is this: it's hard to feel sympathy for the Talleys when they continued to live beyond their means despite a financial situation that was so dire, they were evicted from their home. Janine then receives help from Daryl's former teammates (another great gesture) and uses the money to rent a home in a gated community overlooking a golf course. With Daryl in such dire need for medical help, one would think there are better uses for those funds. His teammates didn't give him money to rent the home. They RENTED THE HOME FOR HIM. He wasn't "living beyond his means" or squandering anyone else's money. He didn't get any money, and didn't decide what to rent. Just...stop digging, you idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 His teammates didn't give him money to rent the home. They RENTED THE HOME FOR HIM. He wasn't "living beyond his means" or squandering anyone else's money. He didn't get any money, and didn't decide what to rent. Just...stop digging, you idiot. You're wrong. Read the article, you imbecile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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