llyolf Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Rex: He does have pretty feet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Rex is moving this team in the direction of the last year he was with the Jets, not the first years when he made the conference title games. Adding Mr Football will accelerate that process. And who wants someone that beats women on their team? This D-bag belongs with Rapistberger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I just about how his family has a history of being a little crazy. His dad seems pretty convinced his son was gonna unravel and looks like it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Rex is moving this team in the direction of the last year he was with the Jets, not the first years when he made the conference title games. Adding Mr Football will accelerate that process. And who wants someone that beats women on their team? This D-bag belongs with Rapistberger. Roethlisberger never raped anyone (having sex with a drunken slut in a bathroom isn't rape) and I don't recall anything other than an accusation against Manziel for beating a female. All I remember is that he was believed to have pushed his girlfriend's head against the car window ... which if he did, then yes, he's a scumbag. I just never recall him being charged or - more importantly - convicted of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Roethlisberger never raped anyone (having sex with a drunken slut in a bathroom isn't rape) and I don't recall anything other than an accusation against Manziel for beating a female. All I remember is that he was believed to have pushed his girlfriend's head against the car window ... which if he did, then yes, he's a scumbag. I just never recall him being charged or - more importantly - convicted of anything.Wow, the "drunken slut" as you put it was a 20 year old, which makes her under age. Her drunken state was facilitated by Rothisberger and his entourage, one of whom was an off duty police officer, who really should have known better. The incident also begs the question, what was Rothlisgerger doing in a Podunk college town in GA? Then of course there is the other incident in Reno. A celebrity being accused of sexual assault once could be questionable, but twice? I also found it interesting that Rothlisgerger suddenly found Jesus. At the very very least Rothlisgerger can be accused of great stupidity for putting himself in these situations, the same can be said of Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Wow, the "drunken slut" as you put it was a 20 year old, which makes her under age. Her drunken state was facilitated by Rothisberger and his entourage, one of whom was an off duty police officer, who really should have known better. The incident also begs the question, what was Rothlisgerger doing in a Podunk college town in GA? Then of course there is the other incident in Reno. A celebrity being accused of sexual assault once could be questionable, but twice? I also found it interesting that Rothlisgerger suddenly found Jesus. At the very very least Rothlisgerger can be accused of great stupidity for putting himself in these situations, the same can be said of Manziel. Not to mention, consent gets really iffy once intoxication comes into play. Who knows what she was coerced, or forced into doing in that state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 @AP_NFL Cleveland Browns fans boycotting Johnny Manziel for month on Twitter, using #JohnnyFreeFebruary #JFF http://apne.ws/1WXpCtH @twithersAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Not to mention, consent gets really iffy once intoxication comes into play. Who knows what she was coerced, or forced into doing in that state. Then why the poor (IMO) choice of words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Roethlisberger never raped anyone (having sex with a drunken slut in a bathroom isn't rape) and I don't recall anything other than an accusation against Manziel for beating a female. All I remember is that he was believed to have pushed his girlfriend's head against the car window ... which if he did, then yes, he's a scumbag. I just never recall him being charged or - more importantly - convicted of anything. Try to keep up, Gugny. You've missed the latest Manziel incident. Where no charges have been filed - yet - and probably won't be, but a pattern is starting to emerge. And oh, by the way. Consensual sex requires ability to render consent. So yes, having sex with someone who is too drunk to render meaningful consent, is, in fact, rape. Why is this so hard for people to understand? I really didn't want to have "another one of those threads" but after I chilled for a while, this needed to be said. Then why the poor (IMO) choice of words? Wait, where did Dorkington use a poor choice of words? I don't care about Gugny's choice of words, but it's "standard" denyer vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Roethlisberger never raped anyone (having sex with a drunken slut in a bathroom isn't rape) and I don't recall anything other than an accusation against Manziel for beating a female. All I remember is that he was believed to have pushed his girlfriend's head against the car window ... which if he did, then yes, he's a scumbag. I just never recall him being charged or - more importantly - convicted of anything. This is getting weird. Try to keep up, Gugny. You've missed the latest Manziel incident. Where no charges have been filed - yet - and probably won't be, but a pattern is starting to emerge. And oh, by the way. Consensual sex requires ability to render consent. So yes, having sex with someone who is too drunk to render meaningful consent, is, in fact, rape. Why is this so hard for people to understand? I really didn't want to have "another one of those threads" but after I chilled for a while, this needed to be said. Wait, where did Dorkington use a poor choice of words? I don't care about Gugny's choice of words, but it's "standard" denyer vocabulary. If Roethlisberger was also intoxicated, does that mean double rape and let's put them both away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 This is getting weird. If Roethlisberger was also intoxicated, does that mean double rape and let's put them both away? No even if a guy is so drunk he can barely stand and is taken advantage of by woman who he would not even give time of day to he is still responsible. One of high school classmates was accused of DWI and statutory rape of minor simultaneously. It was later proven that not only was he not driver but he was unconscious when sex occurred and the DA still wanted to press charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 If Roethlisberger was also intoxicated, does that mean double rape and let's put them both away? Offsetting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Offsetting By definition, that can't be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Try to keep up, Gugny. You've missed the latest Manziel incident. Where no charges have been filed - yet - and probably won't be, but a pattern is starting to emerge. And oh, by the way. Consensual sex requires ability to render consent. So yes, having sex with someone who is too drunk to render meaningful consent, is, in fact, rape. Why is this so hard for people to understand? I really didn't want to have "another one of those threads" but after I chilled for a while, this needed to be said. Wait, where did Dorkington use a poor choice of words? I don't care about Gugny's choice of words, but it's "standard" denyer vocabulary. I didn't know about the new incident involving Manziel. I will agree that it's showing a disturbing pattern. As far as Roethlisberger, it's my understanding that this girl walked into the bathroom and walked out of the bathroom. It's not like he picked her up, semi-conscious, and brought her in there to have his way with her. I'm not sure where one draws the line for "meaningful consent," but I never remember reading anywhere that she had sex with him unwillingly or unknowingly. I will say this - I'm a firm believer that the most heinous crime in the world is rape - even worse than murder. I'd never joke about it or take it lightly. I'm just calling a spade a spade, here. it's not like this happened in a dark alley with no one around. If he raped her in the bathroom of a crowded bar, he would have been charged and convicted of rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I don't care about Gugny's choice of words, but it's "standard" denyer vocabulary. He didn't. Was pointed at Gug. Why I quoted dork I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Moderator note: Please try to keep this thread somewhat football related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Waiver wire opens at Monday 12:01am. Expect him cut. Sashi has spoken. http://m.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Statement-from-Cleveland-Browns-EVP-of-Football-Operations-Sashi-Brown-on-Johnny-Manziel/df6a9b4e-48e3-4095-9f77-3ed4f0c23e60 Edited February 2, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Say what you really mean, Gil! @Gil_Brandt - I'm convinced Manziel is sabotaging his stay in Cleveland in order to get out. No one can be that dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 It is possible the team has more info than the league at this point. They have their own investigators. He's gone. About two years too late. Have fun, Jerruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Say what you really mean, Gil! @Gil_Brandt - I'm convinced Manziel is sabotaging his stay in Cleveland in order to get out. No one can be that dumb. someone very wise ( & wonderful) said much the same up thread. He can't be that stupid. But...if he wasn't that stupid he'd be partying not allegedly abusing a female so maybe he's cray cray and also wants out of Cleveland. The sad thing is that if he wants out of there there's probably little chance he'd be interested in Buffalo. It would be reay great if he landed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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