PlayoffsPlease Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Personally I think the GM that went with Andy Reid and Alex Smith is smarter than the GM who went with Doug Marrone and EJ Manuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Totally wrong! Russ Brandon went Doug Marrone! Misery is wrong yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanMike Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yet everyone says Brandon doesn't make football decisions. We paid dearly for the Moron decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yet everyone says Brandon doesn't make football decisions. We paid dearly for the Moron decision. Russ was the de facto owner at that point. So who was going to tell him no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I just love living in the past. Don't you? It's like Groundhog Day everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Brandon had his hands all over the decision to hire Marrone. Perhaps not because St. Doug was down the road at SU, but because Brandon is pretty high on himself and had just been given the keys to the kingdom by RW a few days before. In January 2013 Nix had one foot out the door, Whaley was not officially GM, and Brandon was at the head of their front office football ops triumvirate. People think it's bad luck Buffalo doesn't crash the playoff party every year. In reality, it's senior management that makes bad HC and GM hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I just love living in the past. Don't you? It's like Groundhog Day everyday. Crusades are fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=248yrsPInms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 It appears as though Whaley just goes along to get along and isn't actually involved in the important decisions. Same idiotic theories about Ryan as Marrone. If people "defending" Whaley with this nonesense, think about it, they are just pointing out that two different ownerships didn't respect his opinion on coaching. Lets face it he has been with the team for 6 years. He isn't the only problem, he obviously isn't the solution either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 It appears as though Whaley just goes along to get along and isn't actually involved in the important decisions. Same idiotic theories about Ryan as Marrone. If people "defending" Whaley with this nonesense, think about it, they are just pointing out that two different ownerships didn't respect his opinion on coaching. Lets face it he has been with the team for 6 years. He isn't the only problem, he obviously isn't the solution either. Trying to change the argument in this pathetic thread. Not gonna work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Personally I think the GM that went with Andy Reid and Alex Smith is smarter than the GM who went with Doug Marrone and EJ Manuel. With all of the uncertainty regarding the Bills organization at the time Reid likely was not an option. Marrone was actually something of a surprise get.......which says a lot about how lowly regarded Ralph's organization was. Reid went to a stable organization with a reasonable track record wrt treatment of coaches. After Chuck Knox and his famous "Buffalo is where good coaches go to die" take on Ralph the Bills were never really in on a prime coaching candidate the rest of Ralph's life. Edited January 10, 2016 by #BADOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Never mind that Whaley wasnt the GM on 1/6/13... but do we know that Reid was ready to come to Buffalo and we told him no thanks? Or are we pretending that who they hire is totally up to the employer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If someone can point to all the "Hire Andy Reid" threads at the time, please do. I would have more respect for those saying we should have three years after the fact. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Because Reid was going to come here but Whaley didn't want him, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Never mind that Whaley wasnt the GM on 1/6/13... but do we know that Reid was ready to come to Buffalo and we told him no thanks? Or are we pretending that who they hire is totally up to the employer ? Your sanity and rationality is appreciated. Hopefully it stems the tide of dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I was a strong advocate of signing or trying to get A.Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I was a strong advocate of signing or trying to get A.Smith. We tried. KC's second round pick (34 overall), was just more attractive to the 49ers. I don't think anyone would have been OK with us offering more than that value at the time. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHILL Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Personally I think the GM that went with Andy Reid and Alex Smith is smarter than the GM who went with Doug Marrone and EJ Manuel. This is ridiculous revisionist history. The Chiefs fired Crennel immediately after the season. They immediately went after Reid as Coach and then hired John Dorsey as GM.Reid was officially hired on Jan. 4th. . Marrone quit on Jan 1. Reid had already been interviewing with KC. Get your facts straight and stop being a revisionist idiot because the Chiefs won today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 This is ridiculous revisionist history. The Chiefs fired Crennel immediately after the season. They immediately went after Reid as Coach and then hired John Dorsey as GM.Reid was officially hired on Jan. 4th. . Marrone quit on Jan 1. Reid had already been interviewing with KC. Get your facts straight and stop being a revisionist idiot because the Chiefs won today. Marrone quit in 2015, Reid was hired in 2013. And although the concept of this thread is dumb and revisionist, the idea of not being able to better KC's pick of #34 in the draft is kinda silly when you look back on the fact that we, instead, took EJ Manuel around 18th or 19th. I imagine, if you had a time machine, you could go back and still trade back with St. Louis in that draft and get that second pick in the 2nd round that we got Robert Woods with, and maybe even traded down again to about 27 or 28 and pick up another 2nd or 3rd rounder in that draft to get EJ with later, more where he was slotted, then give that 27 or 28 pick to SF, as it would still be higher than the 34 they got. Again, only with a time machine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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