VirginiaMike Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I think he is a solid receiver, its a shame Percy H did now work out because Woods would have really been able to shine. With that said, you need depth at the receiver position so a 2nd or 3rd would not be an issue. However there are many needs on this team, i am not sure a WR warrants a 2nd or 3rd round pick. I think Woods is a good #3 and looked good when Harvin and Watkins were on the field. Any chance that Harvin comes back next year. The Bills can't spend much money on Harvin if he wants to play (too much chance of injury), but when he plays too his potential, he can tilt the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Woods is a really good blocker but he absolutely does not have incredible hands and can't stay on his feet long enough to make a play when he does actually catch the ball. Spending a first on a WR to be a number 2 would be foolish. I'm also not sold on Treadwell and curious to see how he runs the 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Good, solid receiver; more a three than a two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I will just regurgitate my previous posts on this subject. Woods isn't striking fear into any DB. Another WR, good enough to draw double coverage, would open up the passing game like no other single player they could acquire (save a HoF QB). What happened when Watkins was out, and Woods became the #1 WR by default? Did he draw double coverage...nope. And if he ever did, he was most certainly shut down. In some of Watkins best games, he would have a real good 1st half, then they would double him in the 2nd. Hogan, Woods...these guys weren't good enough to reap the full benefit of that. Having a guy that is good enough to keep a safety from cheating to Watkins, will reap dividends. Especially with Tyrod's deep throw ability. Really, if you were a deep safety, and you had Watkins streaking down the sidelines on one side, and Woods on the other, who would you choose to cover? Watkins...every time. I understand the argument for the O-line, but another WR that is a notch or 2 above Woods, would have a bigger impact in my opinion. I realize there are more variables, but I like to look at it in terms of how many guys can a player occupy. In the passing game, the best O-lineman in the league can only occupy 1 defender. A good WR can pull 2 defenders (maybe 3), opening up other areas on the field. This is pretty much exactly how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Solid, legit #2. Great #3. My favorite team to look at for this is Carolina. They lost Benjamin and every guy went up a notch. We lot Harvin and same thing. Without solid depth at WR you're screwed. If we had Harvin all year it'd be different but make no mistake about it teams need a Bob Woods on their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I called him average once and caught hell for it- even though I considered it a complement. So I reconsidered, and changed my mind. Now I'd say he's average at best. Best QB we've had in years and he was almost invisible...other than his falls and drops. 72nd in yardage. 1 TD every 4th game for his career...dispersed rather evenly, I might add. As bad as we need offensive help every year, his production has been very disappointing for a 2nd rounder. "BUT...B-BUT...NO WAY!...HE ALSO BLOCKS!!!!" they scream. He'd better, because he doesn't really do much else to help the team put points up. I don't understand why he escapes scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm a fan of Bob Woods. Good hands, good route runner, good blocker. The perfect WR2 or WR3 to have on the team. I think we do need another speed guy to replace the position Harvin/Goodwin has played, but hopefully with a bit more size to be durable. I don't think such a player 'replaces' Woods, though. Woods does not have good hands as he's dropped a lot of passes and is not a good route runner as he is either diving back for the ball, tripping over himself and is not in sync with the QB. He is a great blocking WR, but he is inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFFacet Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) If he were better we wouldn't need to draft a WR. But he's just a guy tbh. I think we all had much higher expectations for him. Edited January 4, 2016 by SoFFacet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 They lost Benjamin and every guy went up a notch. We lot Harvin and same thing. No, they did not. They proved they are #3s & #4s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Woods is a nice number 4 WR. He is not a # two nor a # three. Hogan is not an answer either. 2016 WR Corp 1. Sammy 2. find a tall reliable vet like eric decker 3. third round pick 4. Woods 5. whoever emerges from camp fodder (Lewis, Salas, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Woods is a nice number 4 WR. He is not a # two nor a # three. Hogan is not an answer either. 2016 WR Corp 1. Sammy 2. find a tall reliable vet like eric decker 3. third round pick 4. Woods 5. whoever emerges from camp fodder (Lewis, Salas, etc) Agreed. Harvin and Goodwin can't stay healthy and need to go. Hogan is too slow and too inconsistent and needs to go as well. Just heard Sal C. on WGR say that Woods has been dealing with a severe groin injury since training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Woods does not have good hands as he's dropped a lot of passes and is not a good route runner as he is either diving back for the ball, tripping over himself and is not in sync with the QB. He is a great blocking WR, but he is inconsistent. Do you have drop percentage stats to share? This is what I found: Name POS TM REC Drops TGT TGT% DRP% Chris Hogan WR BUF 36 4 59 61.0% 6.8% Charles Clay TE BUF 51 4 77 66.2% 5.2% Sammy Watkins WR BUF 60 3 96 62.5% 3.1% Robert Woods WR BUF 47 2 80 58.8% 2.5% Percy Harvin WR BUF 19 1 30 63.3% 3.3% LeSean McCoy RB BUF 32 1 50 64.0% 2.0% Karlos Williams RB BUF 11 0 14 78.6% 0.0% Chris Gragg TE BUF 12 0 20 60.0% 0.0% From: http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2015/ No clue how accurate they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Tore is groin in preseason. http://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/684035852322787328 Already had the surgery, will be back for OTA's http://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/684036213221789697 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Jesus, playing with that? Bravo to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Jesus, playing with that? Bravo to him. Certainly explains is uncertain footing throughout most of the season! Sounds like he's also making strides to prepare for life after football: http://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/684037038094565376 Good for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Tore is groin in preseason. http://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/684035852322787328 Already had the surgery, will be back for OTA's http://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/684036213221789697 oh wow. Had no idea. Knew he was tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Damn! I give Woods a ton of credit for playing through that this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) I don't think he has incredible hands. He drops kind of a lot, to my eyes. He's "okay" he does everything decently, but does not excel in any one area. He's also not particularly big or fast, but he's not clutch to make up for that. I would say the other needs are relatively equal to WR2. O-Line we need a RT. LB and Safety, definitely those are big needs too. But WR2 is right there with them. IMO. He accels at run blocking. But yeah he's not an ideal outside guy. They had it right in the beginning of the season. You need a Harvin type opposite Sammy. Woods can play slot. Harvin could get sprung deep. Tyrod a deep sideline ball is the best I've ever seen in a bills jersey... Ok maybe Kelly had a nice one too- it's been so long... But I feel like Tyrod is actually more precise. Get a versatile speed guy that can run under a deep ball to pair with Sammy and they would be a hard team to defend. Edited January 4, 2016 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 We're so used to mediocrity in Buffalo, it is easy to think RW is good, or excellent, but he is just average. Take a look at the Steelers or Cardinals. all of those guys are Weapons. We have one in Sammy, and if you add TE, Clay. We need another big WR. pretty sure we are going WR either 1 or 2 this year, can't see them going with Harvin or Goodwin, so your down to 3 guys Sammy, Woods and Hogan, which is not good enough.... Easley is a gunner forever. the other guys were just fill ins for Harvin and Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Tore is groin in preseason. http://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/684035852322787328 Already had the surgery, will be back for OTA's http://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/684036213221789697 Bravo for Woods stepping up like that. Stuff like this is why Harvin nursing injuries and taking a powder were such slaps in the face to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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