FireChan Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Interesting. I'll await those stats. https://rotogrinders.com/pages/nfl-target-stats-wide-receivers-154401 http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=RECEIVING&conference=null&season=2015&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RECEIVING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1 Feel free to compare lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 https://rotogrinders.com/pages/nfl-target-stats-wide-receivers-154401 http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=RECEIVING&conference=null&season=2015&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RECEIVING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1 Feel free to compare lists. I didn't see the stats Chilly mentioned. But I did see that in addition to better season stats, Woods had a lower drop rate and higher first down percentage than Hogan. Good to know. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I didn't see the stats Chilly mentioned. But I did see that in addition to better season stats, Woods had a lower drop rate and higher first down percentage than Hogan. Good to know. Thanks. I'm jumping in late -- are people arguing Hogan is a better WR than Woods? Is that really where we are in this thread? That's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I'm jumping in late -- are people arguing Hogan is a better WR than Woods? Is that really where we are in this thread? That's hilarious. That's what appears to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I'm jumping in late -- are people arguing Hogan is a better WR than Woods? Is that really where we are in this thread? That's hilarious. I think they are pay your money and take your choice. Don't think one is discernibly better than the other. Both are guys who for me you are looking to upgrade if he is your #2 and both are guys that you are very happy with and will contribute effectively as your #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I think they are pay your money and take your choice. Don't think one is discernibly better than the other. Both are guys who for me you are looking to upgrade if he is your #2 and both are guys that you are very happy with and will contribute effectively as your #3. I respect your football views and know you have been a fan of Hogan for awhile. That's cool, I got nothing against Hogan or your take on him. I do agree with what you say above but for the discernibly better bit. To me he's not in Woods' class. Woods does everything better than Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) Interesting. I'll await those stats. Feel free to browse http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr. You'll see a lot more #2 guys (like Decker, Hurns, Rashard Matthews, James Jones, Marvin Jones, etc) than #3 near the top of the standings, and the ones where you do see the #3, it's an offense where it's debatable what a #2 or a #3 is (like ARI or Seattle). I'm jumping in late -- are people arguing Hogan is a better WR than Woods? Is that really where we are in this thread? That's hilarious. That's what appears to be the case. That's incorrect. I'm arguing Woods has underperformed on the field the past 2 seasons and I'm using the comparison to Chris Hogan as evidence. He should be producing significantly better than Hogan based on talent and he hasn't. Edited August 8, 2016 by Chilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 That's incorrect. I'm arguing Woods has underperformed on the field the past 2 seasons and I'm using the comparison to Chris Hogan as evidence. He should be producing significantly better than Hogan based on talent and he hasn't. That's fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Feel free to browse http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr. You'll see a lot more #2 guys (like Decker, Hurns, Rashard Matthews, James Jones, Marvin Jones, etc) than #3 near the top of the standings, and the ones where you do see the #3, it's an offense where it's debatable what a #2 or a #3 is (like ARI or Seattle). That's incorrect. I'm arguing Woods has underperformed on the field the past 2 seasons and I'm using the comparison to Chris Hogan as evidence. He should be producing significantly better than Hogan based on talent and he hasn't. I think most everyone wants to see more production out of Woods. But he's still under contract and cheap and Hogan was a RFA who got a significant pay raise. And in the description of the statistics, they mention that they don't evaluate quarterback play, and that has a huge effect on the stats. But we'll see this season. The excuses are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Trust continues to build between Taylor & Woods Last season it was hard for Tyrod Taylor to trust Robert Woods because Woods’ debilitating groin injury compromised his consistency in being in the right place at the right time. That’s not the case anymore and there is growing trust between the quarterback and receiver with each passing day at training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I think most everyone wants to see more production out of Woods. But he's still under contract and cheap and Hogan was a RFA who got a significant pay raise. And in the description of the statistics, they mention that they don't evaluate quarterback play, and that has a huge effect on the stats. But we'll see this season. The excuses are over. And we want to see more production out of Woods because he hasn't been a very good receiver up until this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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