bilzfancy Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: They will NEVER stop....... They've already pulled Mark Twain and To Kill a Mockingbird in the Minneapolis school district 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: They've already pulled Mark Twain and To Kill a Mockingbird in the Minneapolis school district Not that it matters, because the whole ordeal is intellectually repugnant, but all of Twain’s works or just Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 4 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Not that it matters, because the whole ordeal is intellectually repugnant, but all of Twain’s works or just Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn? This happened a couple of years ago and I believe those books were required readings as part of the English curriculum. None of Twain's other works were and all of these books are available to read in their school libraries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 11 hours ago, bilzfancy said: What's your excuse for tearing down Washington, Jefferson, Fredrick Douglas etc? Small minority wants that, nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This happened a couple of years ago and I believe those books were required readings as part of the English curriculum. None of Twain's other works were and all of these books are available to read in their school libraries. Teaching Huck Finn would be a challenge. It’s not just a great book, it’s open for all kinds of interpretation and it’s so full of racism, but much of it is a child rising above that racism to see the light. I actually just read it and was thinking about how a teacher would present it. Huck’s fathers racist rant is pretty hard core stuff, but that’s how it was. I could see a non skillful teacher making mistakes, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Numark3 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, bilzfancy said: They've already pulled Mark Twain and To Kill a Mockingbird in the Minneapolis school district that’s dumb. But in fairness, those books have unfortunately been getting pulled from school districts for decades. 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Teaching Huck Finn would be a challenge. It’s not just a great book, it’s open for all kinds of interpretation and it’s so full of racism, but much of it is a child rising above that racism to see the light. I actually just read it and was thinking about how a teacher would present it. Huck’s fathers racist rant is pretty hard core stuff, but that’s how it was. I could see a non skillful teacher making mistakes, lol. it was taught fine to me in middle school. It is a tough book, that’s the point though Edited July 6, 2020 by Crayola64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Gee, wonder who did that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 BRYAN PRESTON: Do We Still Hold These Truths to Be Self-Evident? Taking the words of the Declaration together with the preamble to Constitution and Douglass rightly saw the ideas that would inevitably end slavery, as long as the republic endured long enough to see it. In 1852, as now, this was not ironclad. So, to the free man, the Fourth of July represented his guarantee. To those still enslaved, the Fourth of July represented hope of freedom to come. Frederick Douglass’ experience led him to see this more clearly than anyone else of his age and probably anyone since or now. The storm, the whirlwind, and the earthquake Douglass spoke of came, in the form of a destructive civil war. America paid in blood and treasure as it never had before, and slavery was ended. Douglass lived through it as one of abolitionism’s most ardent, eloquent, passionate, and heard spokesman. He had risen from slavery to become a friend of presidents, as a citizen, though not yet in full. Few have the power of oration without experience, and Douglass had experienced it all. He had lived under unjust law. He had broken that law. And he also respected and served the higher law, the Constitution, which he respected as a means of reaching understanding and offering hope. He was a true American on July 4, 1852, more true than many others. On July 4, 2020, people as yet unknown damaged and toppled the statue of Frederick Douglass in Rochester that marks his moment and his speech. The damage was so extensive that it will probably have to be replaced. Read the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Trump is nuts... Trump campaign claims the president will protect Brazil's famous Christ the Redeemer statue from vandalism and destruction 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, BillStime said: Trump is nuts... Trump campaign claims the president will protect Brazil's famous Christ the Redeemer statue from vandalism and destruction Yeah, let's take that one down too,........smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, bilzfancy said: Yeah, let's take that one down too,........smh Yeah - and what say does he have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: And this is why they don’t call them history teachers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) One thing struck me. You don't see anyone pulling down a MLK statue. Give them time. Edited July 6, 2020 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 50 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: I'm sure he'll be given tenure for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 "End police violence!" "YES!" "Black Lives Matter!" "YES!" "Take confederate names off military bases!" "YES!" "And take down their statues!" "YES!" "And Washington & Jefferson's!" "YE- well um..." "and Lincoln & Grant!" "waitwhut" "and Frederick Douglass!" "yeah Imma head out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Sums up the Trump admin and campaign perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBUFFALO716 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, B-Man said: "End police violence!" "YES!" "Black Lives Matter!" "YES!" "Take confederate names off military bases!" "YES!" "And take down their statues!" "YES!" "And Washington & Jefferson's!" "YE- well um..." "and Lincoln & Grant!" "waitwhut" "and Frederick Douglass!" "yeah Imma head out" waitwhut? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 The Confederate flag is about racism, treason and slavery. That’s the hill these people want to die on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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