reddogblitz Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Would be a good trade for Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I hope Buffalo doesn't bite on RG3. Washington having trade talks per ESPN ... I hope Buffalo is NOT in the mix. C'mon people get a grip, not happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 No thanks...but I can't help feel bad for RGIII. The Redskins have put on a clinic on how to destroy a promising rookie QB. He did it to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 He did it to himself. He had PLENTY of help, IMO. But he isn't faultless, if that's what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Considering EJ is better than RG3 at this point Redskins better give a few draft picks as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 His problem is his work ethic. It isn't bad coaching. Gruden and Shannahan are good coaches. This is a guy that never had to work at his craft and relied on his athletic ability. Then he got hurt and never adjusted That's on him. I wouldn't touch him Bob 3.0 is to Ryan Leaf as Andrew Luck is to Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bob 3.0 is to Ryan Leaf as Andrew Luck is to Peyton Manning. Comparing any QB to Ryan Leaf is analogous to comparing any political leader to Hitler. Where do you go from there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bob 3.0 is to Ryan Leaf as Andrew Luck is to Peyton Manning. Except that whole OROY stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Comparing any QB to Ryan Leaf is analogous to comparing any political leader to Hitler. Where do you go from there? How about comparing Ryan Leaf to Todd Marinovich? Does that get it to a wash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I hope Buffalo doesn't bite on RG3. Washington having trade talks per ESPN ... I hope Buffalo is NOT in the mix. I don't think you have anything to worry about, despite people who get paid to offer football opinions pontificating about the Bills as possible trade partners. Three reasons: 1) The Bills have spent pretty much up to their cap and are done in FA except vet minimum sort of deals. Dealer Doug said it and I think he's straight up. RGIII salary this year is only $3.2M, which might make the careless say "oh, OK, cut Cassel?" but the Skins picked up a $16M 5th year option on him. Unless he reno's, he's un-tradeable. 2) The Bills know they have some key players to re-sign (*cough* Dareus *cough*). Even if RGIII lets go of his $16M 2016, that makes him a player on a 1-year deal. Poor value. 3) I think Dealer Doug is a pretty shrewd operator. He trades for value, or what he perceives as value, vs need. A talented but unproven QB whose pocket presence needs development and is yet unproven? We got two of them for way less than RGIII 2015 salary, why would we want three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 How about comparing Ryan Leaf to Todd Marinovich? Does that get it to a wash? Wow, that's a good one. But anyone capable of winning Rookie of the Year probably has a bit more going on than those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Wow, that's a good one. But anyone capable of winning Rookie of the Year probably has a bit more going on than those two. Agreed. My point, really, was that there were two, consensus top QB picks in those drafts and two were phenomenal while the other two were busts. Despite RG III's OROY, he's proven to be a bust...albeit not on the epic level of Ryan Leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) I always hated the draft trade, but not the player. That's because who was to say he wouldn't be good? The problem with the draft trade is: the ONLY way it makes sense is if he is the GOAT by a lot. It only took 1 pick to draft Kelly, Marino, Elway, Manning, Brady, Montana, etc. I got tons of crap for it on this board(I'm just waiting until this plays out, and when it does? Accountability thread). The question to consider here is: Given the entire history of Dan Snyder owning the Redskins with hilarious examples of ineptitude, like... 1. Adam Archuleta(a Saftey that didn't fit their defense, who ended up making near-top safety $...to play special teams) 2. Albert Haynesworth(same thing on player vs scheme, but this guy had a terrible attitude, and they never even bothered to ask their own pro scouts) 3. Years of trading multiple draft picks away for big name, but old and declining players(at these the two guys above still had game). In 2010 they had 1 1st(albeit a pro-bowl T, but, 4th overall...because they suck), 1 4th, 1 6th and 3 7ths. That was their draft. Can you imagine what this place would turn into, if that's all the draft picks we had, trying to rebuild the 4th-worst team in the NFL? 4. Having his media lackeys(you either write what he wants, or say goodbye to the locker room) tamper with Aaron Schobel, and make a himself and them look like complete idiots ...why did ANY of you ever believe in the RG3 draft trade? Once again: it's Dan Synder! It seems like Snyder would have to come kick some of you in the junk, for you to finally realize he's an ass. EDIT This video serves as a metaphor for the entire Dan Synder Redskins era. Edited August 31, 2015 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Confounding and very frustrating... I have no idea how RG3's head got so far up his as$$.... Too soon for us to use the "B" word, but things aren't looking good at the moment.. Edited August 31, 2015 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The report is trade talks have already been had, and no team bit, including the Bills. $16.1 million gtd is alot for a QB who can't stay healthy and doesn't have the mindset of an unselfish player. Six months ago I would have been giddy with a fourth round pick to acquire RG. Now with the emergence of TT and EJ I think we would be moving backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 rg3 is turning into a lindros or connolly type player. His rookie year you thought he had hof talent with all he was doing and now he's a shell of himself with all these injuries. That last hit he took he got absolutely demoslished....that shouldn't happen to any qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 if you read the banner scroll on espn, it did say Washington was in trade talks with several teams, it also went on to say there was ZERO interest in return, I hope Buffalo doesn't bite on RG3. Washington having trade talks per ESPN ... I hope Buffalo is NOT in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 if you read the banner scroll on espn, it did say Washington was in trade talks with several teams, it also went on to say there was ZERO interest in return, Of course not - he's been awful for 2 full years now and looks even worse this preseason. Why would anyone trade for a guy with no value and pay his 1st-round contract when he can be had for the minimum. Cousins just named the starter for week 1. Yes - he's a BUST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 rg3 is turning into a lindros or connolly type player. His rookie year you thought he had hof talent with all he was doing and now he's a shell of himself with all these injuries. That last hit he took he got absolutely demoslished....that shouldn't happen to any qb. It would help if his OL wanted to block for him. That's on Gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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