pbanach Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 http://nysportsbiz.com/2015/08/24/pff-tyrod-taylor-e-j-manuel-ranked-in-top-10-through-two-preseason-games/ I know it's only preseason, but both Taylor and Manuel are ranked in the top 10 QB's out of 111 players graded by Pro Football Focus. Against backups or not that's nothing but a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Charlie Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Thats impossible since the Bills have the wost QB battle in the history of the NFL and Rex knows absolutely nothing about offense or developing a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 SUPER BOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 TMOBILE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You can talk about playing against backups but you still have to make plays and be accurate. For the first time in years we're seeing that in preseason. Remember all the years we had to make excuses why we looked so terrible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You can talk about playing against backups but you still have to make plays and be accurate. For the first time in years we're seeing that in preseason. Remember all the years we had to make excuses why we looked so terrible? Nice to see you coming around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorom Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 It refreshing to at least have QB's that are rated in the preseason but not much to see here outside of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 One thing I like about this analysis is that they account for dropped passes. EJ has hit a lot of receivers in the hands this preseason and had passes just flat out dropped. I want this kid to succeed and I want him to do it here. If it's not this year I hope we continue to develop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Who were the top 10 preseason QBs last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Who were the top 10 preseason QBs last year?not ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) OK Get the firing squad ready Gee I wonder ..... more Yards Per Play .... oh never mind' In 59 snaps Manuel (+3.0) is ranked sixth overall behind Chase Daniel (KC), Scott Tolzien (GB), Ben Rothlisberger (PITT) Andrew Luck (INDY), and Drew Brees (NO) in that order. Right behind him is Taylor (+2.7) who’s played 53 snaps, grades as the 10th overall quarterback and is the league’s top-rated rusher at the position. E.J. has more attempts through the air as he’s 13 of 22 passing for 188 yards, two touchdowns and an 8.5 yds/att average while Taylor has connected on 12 of 18 passes for 114 yards and an average of 6.3 yds/att. ...... in Buffalo’s first preseason game against the Carolina Panthers, E.J. had two maybe three passes that were dropped by his receivers on what were catchable balls. On the stat sheet Manuel gets an incomplete pass attempt but through PFF he would most likely receive a positive mark since he did his job of putting the ball in a good spot. So For those saying EJ is inaccurate ... Pleas try harder!! Great Find by the way!!! pbanach, on 25 Aug 2015 - 09:27 AM, said: http://nysportsbiz.com/2015/08/24/pff-tyrod-taylor-e-j-manuel-ranked-in-top-10-through-two-preseason-games/ I know it's only preseason, but both Taylor and Manuel are ranked in the top 10 QB's out of 111 players graded by Pro Football Focus. Against backups or not that's nothing but a good thing. Edited August 25, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Who is Scott Tolzien? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 http://nysportsbiz.com/2015/08/24/pff-tyrod-taylor-e-j-manuel-ranked-in-top-10-through-two-preseason-games/ I know it's only preseason, but both Taylor and Manuel are ranked in the top 10 QB's out of 111 players graded by Pro Football Focus. Against backups or not that's nothing but a good thing. That's impossible since the Bills QB situation is the worst in the league - Nick Kostos of Bleacher Report says so and it must be true! It's so dire that our incompetent FO better be on the phone offering a fire sale of our best players to motivate another team to trade us their unproven backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Who is Scott Tolzien? Backup in Green Bay I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 not ours Mcgloin (Oak), Wilson (Sea), Webb (Car), Nassib (NYG), Bortles (Jax) & Tolzein (GB) https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/08/24/top-preseason-grades-quarterbacks/ I'm surprised - two of those guys are actually starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You can talk about playing against backups but you still have to make plays and be accurate. For the first time in years we're seeing that in preseason. Remember all the years we had to make excuses why we looked so terrible? It wasn't excuse back then. We really were vanilla. then we unleashed the real deal in the regular season.... super vanilla! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) Mcgloin (Oak), Wilson (Sea), Webb (Car), Nassib (NYG), Bortles (Jax) & Tolzein (GB) https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/08/24/top-preseason-grades-quarterbacks/ I'm surprised - two of those guys are actually starters. Tolzien 2 years in a row. I propose we trade for him... Edited August 25, 2015 by TPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Who is Scott Tolzien?Mediocre Wisconsin QB turned GB backup. Very bad in relief of Rodgers a couple years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Backup in Green Bay I believe. Yep. Wisconsin QB in 2010 when they played in the Rosebowl. UDFA, roster in San Diego and SF. One of these little guys who doesn't "look like you want your QB to look" in the NFL Mediocre Wisconsin QB turned GB backup. Very bad in relief of Rodgers a couple years ago. I dunno about "very bad in relief", but TBF he broke school records for completion percentage his senior year and was 4th nationally for completion percentage, won some QB award. I'm not a college football fan but I thought he was pretty good, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Who is Scott Tolzien? Apparently he's the greatest preseason QB of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Yep. Wisconsin QB in 2010 when they played in the Rosebowl. UDFA, roster in San Diego and SF. One of these little guys who doesn't "look like you want your QB to look" in the NFL I dunno about "very bad in relief", but TBF he broke school records for completion percentage his senior year and was 4th nationally for completion percentage, won some QB award. I'm not a college football fan but I thought he was pretty good, actually. perhaps "mediocre Wisconsin QB" is redundant. He was not a train wreck but nothing special. He was not asked to do anything but hand the ball off and convert 3rd and longs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 This is obviously a tainted study since EJ is rated higher than Tryrod. How could ANYONE come to that conclusion? EJ sucks. Everybody knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 This is obviously a tainted study since EJ is rated higher than Tryrod. How could ANYONE come to that conclusion? EJ sucks. Everybody knows that. Was Tom Brady on that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineMoxie Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Trent Edwards was a good preseason QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 perhaps "mediocre Wisconsin QB" is redundant. He was not a train wreck but nothing special. He was not asked to do anything but hand the ball off and convert 3rd and longs. Well, like I said, I'm not a college football fan but I was sharing a cubby with a die-hard Badgers fan that season so I got an eyeful. Kid passed for ~2500 yds and 16 yds his last 2 seasons, that ain't a passing juggernaut but it's more than handoffs and 3rd and long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) Well, like I said, I'm not a college football fan but I was sharing a cubby with a die-hard Badgers fan that season so I got an eyeful. Kid passed for ~2500 yds and 16 yds his last 2 seasons, that ain't a passing juggernaut but it's more than handoffs and 3rd and long. he did nothing against good teams. Badger fans might have thought he was "good" at the time and his completion percentage was high because of all the dump offs to RBs but college stats are usually higher than NFL stats due to the cupcakes they play early and the state of the big 10 pre-2012. To put it in perspective. JT Barrett had 45 TDs last year. He is good. Tolzein was mediocre. Not bad as a whole vs crap teams. However he was very bad at times. Edited August 25, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Trent Edwards was a good preseason QB. No Trent was a good training camp and practice QB. Basically anytime he had the red jersey on. Mediocre Wisconsin QB turned GB backup. Very bad in relief of Rodgers a couple years ago. His stat line is actually not horrible if you overlook the int:TD ratio... Completions and ypa are great, just too many completions to the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) No Trent was a good training camp and practice QB. Basically anytime he had the red jersey on. His stat line is actually not horrible if you overlook the int:TD ratio... Completions and ypa are great, just too many completions to the other team. i don't know his stat line but turnovers lose games in the NFL. In college you can sometimes overcome negative turnover margin as the talent gap can be very wide between teams. In the NFL the talent gap is so narrow between teams that turnovers usually are the difference. IMO Edited August 25, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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