YoloinOhio Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Holdover from Marrone's staff @mikerodak: Kurt Anderson the name to watch if Aaron Kromer is suspended or fired: http://t.co/ZSlyvqZNRk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Not necessarily: punch may still be a misdemeanor. but it was a minor....the rules are different on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Kurt Anderson Tim Graham the name to watch if Aaron Kromer Mike Rodak is suspended or fired: http://t.co/ZSlyvqZNRk Hey, lightning can strike twice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 but it was a minor....the rules are different on that Yeah, I'd figure a minor would be a "protected class." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 but it was a minor....the rules are different on that Not in Florida, unless you have a link. It's not a felony unless he has a previous misdemeanor battery conviction or the defendent is shown to have intended to cause serious bodily injury. A single puch in the face isn't going to get charged unless it was a little kid. Also, he was released on bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Not to sound old but anyone else think it's strange that the police posted the details of the charge on Facebook of all places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yeah, I'd figure a minor would be a "protected class." law enforcement officer or firefighter emergency medical care provider public transport employee breath test operator, while engaged in testing persons under investigation for driving while intoxicated parking enforcement officer licensed security officer employee at a detention or commitment facility for sexually violent offenders, if the defendant knew or had reason to know the victim’s employment status, and code inspectors, if the offender knew or had reason to know the victim’s employment status. (Fla. Stat. §§ 784.011, 784.03, 784.07, 784.074, 784.083). Additional special victims include: employees or investigators for the Children and Family Services Department (if the offender knew or had reason to know the victim’s employment status) a person over the age of sixty-five years of age (the offender need not be aware of victim’s age) sports officials, while participating in a sporting event or immediately after the event school employees or elected officials (if the defendant knew or had reason to know of the victim’s employee status) visitors or detainees in a jail or correctional facility (if the offender is a detainee of the jail or correctional facility), and code inspectors, if the offender knew or had reason to know the victim’s employment status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Sorry, I don't care how good he may be. If the NFL wants to clean things up, he needs to go. How are the players suppossed to act accordingly when coaches can't? He should be Fired ASAP. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Not to sound old but anyone else think it's strange that the police posted the details of the charge on Facebook of all places? Yes, I found that odd. Especially the inclusion of the kid's allegations.,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Sorry, I don't care how good he may be. If the NFL wants to clean things up, he needs to go. How are the players suppossed to act accordingly when coaches can't? He should be Fired ASAP. Imo The ole' guilty before given a chance to hear the other side of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Sorry, I don't care how good he may be. If the NFL wants to clean things up, he needs to go. How are the players suppossed to act accordingly when coaches can't? He should be Fired ASAP. Imo If the facts of the incident bear out the accusations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 law enforcement officer or firefighter emergency medical care provider public transport employee breath test operator, while engaged in testing persons under investigation for driving while intoxicated parking enforcement officer licensed security officer employee at a detention or commitment facility for sexually violent offenders, if the defendant knew or had reason to know the victim’s employment status, and code inspectors, if the offender knew or had reason to know the victim’s employment status. (Fla. Stat. §§ 784.011, 784.03, 784.07, 784.074, 784.083). Additional special victims include: employees or investigators for the Children and Family Services Department (if the offender knew or had reason to know the victim’s employment status) a person over the age of sixty-five years of age (the offender need not be aware of victim’s age) sports officials, while participating in a sporting event or immediately after the event school employees or elected officials (if the defendant knew or had reason to know of the victim’s employee status) visitors or detainees in a jail or correctional facility (if the offender is a detainee of the jail or correctional facility), and code inspectors, if the offender knew or had reason to know the victim’s employment status. So punching someone over 65 is a felony but punching someone under 18 isn't? Yeah, that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Sorry, I don't care how good he may be. If the NFL wants to clean things up, he needs to go. How are the players suppossed to act accordingly when coaches can't? He should be Fired ASAP. Imo Because we only want to take the story of one side, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Sorry, I don't care how good he may be. If the NFL wants to clean things up, he needs to go. How are the players suppossed to act accordingly when coaches can't? He should be Fired ASAP. Imo ASAP? Shouldn't they find out what happened first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 ASAP? Shouldn't they find out what happened first? Actually I'm thinking of starting a GoFundMe campaign and try to raise a million dollars for the victims in this. Those three poor innocent teenagers whose lives have been shattered and futures totally ruined by this heinous crime and who cannot trust any adult anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Sorry, I don't care how good he may be. If the NFL wants to clean things up, he needs to go. How are the players suppossed to act accordingly when coaches can't? He should be Fired ASAP. Imo Fire him this second, before the facts are out, dammit!! And while we're at it, let's cut EJ this second, too, before camp starts, because that's just what a professional organization would do. If you really are in the know, I hope it's not very high up. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 pretty unoriginal if you ask me Especially coming from anyone in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 So punching someone over 65 is a felony but punching someone under 18 isn't? Yeah, that makes sense. It's Florida. Of course it makes sense given the pandering politicians and retirees they cater to. I own a second home in central FL and it always creeps me out to see how entitled a large swath of the 65-plus croud is. The only group with more clout and legislative backing is the medical lobby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Fire him this second, before the facts are out, dammit!! And while we're at it, let's cut EJ this second, too, before camp starts, because that's just what a professional organization would do. If you really are in the know, I hope it's not very high up. Sheesh. Yeah! And can we finally cut Dareus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Not to sound old but anyone else think it's strange that the police posted the details of the charge on Facebook of all places? A lot of the police and fire departments have facebook pages now a days in which they post details of where they are being called to and for what reason. I don't know what the end game of doing this is but I guess it is a modern version of the police beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 It's Florida. Of course it makes sense given the pandering politicians and retirees they cater to. I own a second home in central FL and it always creeps me out to see how entitled a large swath of the 65-plus croud is. The only group with more clout and legislative backing is the medical lobby... I guess retirees want to be able to hit kids without major repercussions. And which medical lobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I guess retirees want to be able to hit kids without major repercussions. And which medical lobby? Anybody feeding at the Medicare trough, of which their number is legion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 A lot of the police and fire departments have facebook pages now a days in which they post details of where they are being called to and for what reason. I don't know what the end game of doing this is but I guess it is a modern version of the police beat. ok. That makes sense. I just see FB as a bunch of vacation pictures and kid videos and people arguing about politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Anybody feeding at the Medicare trough, of which their number is legion.... Which goes back to the over 65 crowd thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 @RapSheet: #Bills OL coach Aaron Kromer was arrested last night and charged with battery with intent to cause bodily harm, per the Walton County Jail. Rex Ryan said he wanted bullies. He's got them! Maybe he's been chatting with Incognito? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Which goes back to the over 65 crowd thing. Yep, it's all interrelated in a symbiotic/parasitic way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yep, it's all interrelated in a symbiotic/parasitic way... Not that I'm in Florida, but if I were, I'd need a good lobby to keep getting even crappier reimbursement rates for anesthesia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 So punching someone over 65 is a felony but punching someone under 18 isn't? Yeah, that makes sense. Here's the law in NYS: if the defendant is at least 18 years old and with the intent to cause physical injury to a victim who is younger than 11 years old, ends up actually recklessly causing serious physical injury. if the defendant is at least 18 years old, intentionally causes physical injury to a victim who is less than seven years old. I don't know if any state makes it a felony if the victim is simpy under 18. Rex Ryan said he wanted bullies. He's got them! Maybe he's been chatting with Incognito? Bully Rex spent the weekend tasting wine in Napa Valley per the NYPost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Not that I'm in Florida, but if I were, I'd need a good lobby to keep getting even crappier reimbursement rates for anesthesia. Well, the line forms to the right... http://tbo.com/news/education/after-political-contributions-donors-will-expect-access-20150101/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan in MD Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 So where does a team find a new OL coach in mid-July? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 So where does a team find a new OL coach in mid-July?More than likely at home on their couch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Meet our new/old OLine coach..already has a respected history with Rex and has a 716 area code. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_McNally http://coachmcnally.com/ Edited July 12, 2015 by Formerly Joe F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) The ole' guilty before given a chance to hear the other side of the story. Because we only want to take the story of one side, right? ASAP? Shouldn't they find out what happened first? Fire him this second, before the facts are out, dammit!! And while we're at it, let's cut EJ this second, too, before camp starts, because that's just what a professional organization would do. If you really are in the know, I hope it's not very high up. Sheesh. I am against any and all abuse on minors and women, under any circumstance. These guys want to hear the "other" side. Lets get your priorities in line gentlemen. This guy terrorizes little kids and how is this not a felony? Bring in a new coach ASAP!! Imo Edited July 12, 2015 by Leroi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I am against any and all abuse on minors and women, under any circumstance. These guys want to hear the "other" side. Lets get your priorities in line gentlemen. This guy terrorizes little kids and how is this not a felony? Bring in a new coach ASAP!! Imo Little kids who are out after midnight? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Little kids who are out after midnight? LOL! Don't get caught up with semantics, Any minor is considered a kid and what was his son doing at the scene? The guy should win the greatest dad of the year award. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 I am against any and all abuse on minors and women, under any circumstance. These guys want to hear the "other" side. Lets get your priorities in line gentlemen. This guy terrorizes little kids and how is this not a felony? Bring in a new coach ASAP!! Imo how do you know the story told to the police by the kids is the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Little kids who are out after midnight? LOL! Sigh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Little kids who are out after midnight? LOL! 16 is not a little kid..at a beach vacation home being out at 1 AM near your house is not a crime. Punching a smart mouth kid over a beach chair is a crime whether it happens at 1 PM or 1 AM. Don't care what the kid said...take a breath, realize who you are, the job you have, who you represent and walk away. This bit of bad judgement should cost him his job if Rex, Roman, Terry and Kim are building this team in the right way. Many of us on this board have faced the situation. A drunk teen basically ran over my wife at a MLB baseball game last summer. I could have beaten the living **** out of him and every bone in my body wanted to....but I found a cop and they took care of it. Kromer made a really bad choice taking it into his own hands when there was no immediate threat and many sane alternatives. Don't want him affiliated with the Bills if this is the way he reacts in situations. Don't really care what anyone else thinks on this one. Edited July 12, 2015 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 how do you know the story told to the police by the kids is the truth? Minors get the benefit of the doubt, however, the witness' statements is all you need to read. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Don't get caught up with semantics, Any minor is considered a kid and what was his son doing at the scene? The guy should win the greatest dad of the year award. Imo Kromers son is a qb coach (volunteer) in college. He's not a little kid. Maybe you should know something about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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