YoloinOhio Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000495502/article/steelers-packers-seahawks-possess-top-triplets-for-2015-season Rank of QB/#1WR or pass catcher/#1RB They use Cassel/Sammy/McCoy Edited June 7, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 That's looks pretty decent considering noe of these guys have ever played together and you really don't know what they wll get from Casell or even McCoy with his age/Carries? Where would you have them? FWIW: I always wish they could have gotten Alex Smith somehow a couple years ago when he was available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I wonder where we'd rank if it was just WR/HB. Or WR/HB/TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) That's looks pretty decent considering noe of these guys have ever played together and you really don't know what they wll get from Casell or even McCoy with his age/Carries? Where would you have them? FWIW: I always wish they could have gotten Alex Smith somehow a couple years ago when he was available. mccoy with his age? Isn't he like 26? I think it's probably about right. They would be top 10 with a good qb. Edited June 7, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 If you give the following rankings for each player and do some math, their ranking tells me they don't think a lot of this group. Cassel # 30 Sammy # 15 McCoy # 10 55 / 3 = 18 + ??? mccoy with his age? Isn't he like 26?I think it's probably about right. They would be top 10 with a good qb. Understood, it's just from what I understand he's been used quite a bit, and at the point where many RBs start to decline, if he hasnt already. I also don't know how effective a RB will be behind this O-line, whatever that ends up being. How many carries, yards/carry, do you think he has in him this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) If you give the following rankings for each player and do some math, their ranking tells me they don't think a lot of this group. Cassel # 30 Sammy # 15 McCoy # 10 55 / 3 = 18 + ??? Understood, it's just from what I understand he's been used quite a bit, and at the point where many RBs start to decline, if he hasnt already. I also don't know how effective a RB will be behind this O-line, whatever that ends up being. How many carries, yards/carry, do you think he has in him this year? its probably a situation where once you get past the top 15, the rest kind of get mashed together. If you give the following rankings for each player and do some math, their ranking tells me they don't think a lot of this group. Cassel # 30 Sammy # 15 McCoy # 10 55 / 3 = 18 + ??? Understood, it's just from what I understand he's been used quite a bit, and at the point where many RBs start to decline, if he hasnt already. I also don't know how effective a RB will be behind this O-line, whatever that ends up being. How many carries, yards/carry, do you think he has in him this year? 15-20 carries per game. Not sure about ypc. Need to see run blocking in TC. Scheme + Felton will be huge. Edited June 7, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Right. He will be 27 when the season starts, actually next month, and hasn't had quite as many carries as I though. He is right at that point where RBs start to trend down. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12514/lesean-mccoy http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1271412-why-and-when-do-nfl-running-backs-start-to-decline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Right. He will be 27 when the season starts, actually next month, and hasn't had quite as many carries as I though. He is right at that point where RBs start to trend down. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12514/lesean-mccoy http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1271412-why-and-when-do-nfl-running-backs-start-to-decline You have to take running style into affect when looking at McCoy Very Thurman THomas like in his career.....he probably has at least 3 years of high production left in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 Right. He will be 27 when the season starts, actually next month, and hasn't had quite as many carries as I though. He is right at that point where RBs start to trend down. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12514/lesean-mccoy http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1271412-why-and-when-do-nfl-running-backs-start-to-decline his running style avoids hits; it's not really something I'm worried about but JMO. He's special. Kind of beats to his own drum but hes a beast on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 his running style avoids hits; it's not really something I'm worried about but JMO. He's special. Kind of beats to his own drum but hes a beast on the field. Agreed. He is pretty good at catching the ball also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Right. He will be 27 when the season starts, actually next month, and hasn't had quite as many carries as I though. He is right at that point where RBs start to trend down. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12514/lesean-mccoy http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1271412-why-and-when-do-nfl-running-backs-start-to-decline The article about why and when RBs decline, is about the RBs who hit 370 carries per year. What does that have to do with Shady? He's only had 2 years over 300 and his biggest year was 314. McCoy doesn't take many direct hits and even fewer big hits. If he was Marshawn Lynch, who takes a boat load of big hits trying to stay up, I would be worried. Lynch has 600 more carries and is 2+ years older and still hit 1,300 yards last year. No way McCoy is the 10th best RB in the league. How do you come to that conclusion? In the last 4 years he's finished top 4, 3 out of the 4 years, including #1 in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I don't care how our triplets are ranked now. I care how they're ranked at the end of the season. We don't even know who are QB will be. Sammy is just a sophomore and will be playing with a new starting quarterback. Shady has never run in a Bills uniform before and Roman has never coordinated a Bills O before. It's all a bunch of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 If you give the following rankings for each player and do some math, their ranking tells me they don't think a lot of this group. Cassel # 30 Sammy # 15 McCoy # 10 55 / 3 = 18 + ??? But if you assume QB is weighted at 50% and the others at 25% it would be 85/4 = 21.25, pretty close to 23. In other words, this is just another way of saying "it's all for naught unless one of these QBs steps up". Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 [quote name="YoloinOhio" post="3576729" timestamp="1433693040" I think it's probably about right. They would be top 10 with a good qb. I think it's probably about right. They would be top 10 with a good qb. I agree, the QB position is holding back the dynamic duo of Chris Hogan and Bryce Brown. Oh, wait.... It was nice to see Kelly, Thurman and Reed at #4 in the Super Bowl era, and of course this biased guy could agrue they should be a little higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 But if you assume QB is weighted at 50% and the others at 25% it would be 85/4 = 21.25, pretty close to 23. In other words, this is just another way of saying "it's all for naught unless one of these QBs steps up". Fingers crossed. Good post. I think that really is the general consensus. Thanks for reminding us about weighting the values . well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Looking it over, mid-20's feel right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshermw Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 By week 6, Tyrod/Shady/Sammy will be Top 10. Bank it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 what a joke we should be 14 above san diego, we are getting screwed due to our qb, but the other teams above us have no names either at wr or rb. F that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000495502/article/steelers-packers-seahawks-possess-top-triplets-for-2015-season Rank of QB/#1WR or pass catcher/#1RB They use Cassel/Sammy/McCoy Cassel is a Journeyman QB Sammy had a pretty average rookie WR season considering where he was drafted McCoy comes to a Bills offense whose weakest link is the OL. Will he get room to run, cut etc. He had a fantastic OL in Philadelphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The article about why and when RBs decline, is about the RBs who hit 370 carries per year. What does that have to do with Shady? He's only had 2 years over 300 and his biggest year was 314. McCoy doesn't take many direct hits and even fewer big hits. If he was Marshawn Lynch, who takes a boat load of big hits trying to stay up, I would be worried. Lynch has 600 more carries and is 2+ years older and still hit 1,300 yards last year. No way McCoy is the 10th best RB in the league. How do you come to that conclusion? In the last 4 years he's finished top 4, 3 out of the 4 years, including #1 in 2013. Players tend to be ranked worse when they join the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Cassel is a Journeyman QB Sammy had a pretty average rookie WR season considering where he was drafted McCoy comes to a Bills offense whose weakest link is the OL. Will he get room to run, cut etc. He had a fantastic OL in Philadelphia. This has zero to do with when someone was drafted. Sammy is a game changing #1 wideout Cassel and Shady have both had pro bowl seasons, but as someone else mentioned earlier, none of these three have played a real snap together so they're tough to rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I like our group better than San Fran's. Philly's seems really high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Right. He will be 27 when the season starts, actually next month, and hasn't had quite as many carries as I though. He is right at that point where RBs start to trend down. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12514/lesean-mccoy http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1271412-why-and-when-do-nfl-running-backs-start-to-decline Frank Gore is 32 and has had some of his best years, the past 4 years, with Roman as his coordinator. McCoy has at least 3 more solid, very good years in him, in my opinion. With his role and what they are paying him...I expect a pro-bowl caliber year from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 You have to take running style into affect when looking at McCoy Very Thurman THomas like in his career.....he probably has at least 3 years of high production left in him Look up Thurman's #s post-26. It'll surprise you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Look up Thurman's #s post-26. It'll surprise you. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4/thurman-thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Cassel is a Journeyman QB Sammy had a pretty average rookie WR season considering where he was drafted McCoy comes to a Bills offense whose weakest link is the OL. Will he get room to run, cut etc. He had a fantastic OL in Philadelphia. "pretty average" rookie season? He was one of 9 WRs in the last decade to have at least 65 catches and 980 yards in his rookie season. That's while injured, double teamed, playing with bad QBs and coaches who didn't know how to get him the ball. Edited June 9, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 "pretty average" rookie season? He was one of 9 WRs in the last decade to have at least 65 catches and 980 yards in his rookie season. That's while injured, double teamed, playing with bad QBs and coaches who didn't know how to get him the ball. Yea but OBJ and that catch and stuff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 this is an outrage we should be ranked 22nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 this is an outrage we should be ranked 22nd where do i sign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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