Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 You must have me confused with another member. I said "expect" EJ to be cut along with an "in my opinion". Go back and comprehend get a grasp on the situation before responding. Thanks gun. Imo Leroi, dude, I'm against the whole "canonise then excoriate" thing that folks do around here when someone gets tabbed as an "insider". That said, just a word of friendly advice: Own what you've said in the past. Then, if you genuinely want to be taken as speaking your opinion going forward, use words like "I expect" and "in my opinion" in the text of your post, not an ambiguous three letters down in the area where many people put sigs, after a bunch of "we" and definitive statements like "Fred is gone...we noticed a huge decline" or "look for his release this spring". If you're speaking your opinion, speak for yourself, "I" not "we", unless you got a mouse in your pocket. Take it or don't. If you don't, there are folks here who are more than happy to spend a little time with the search function and call you out on your exact words past, especially if you persist in claiming that they're the ones who are confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 True. I would hate it if he doesn't man out, but unlike Johnny football, he isn't squandering his talent. Poor man's Kaepernick would still be at least average out of 32 starting QBs. I am not sure that kaepernick is above average himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 To a receiver in shorts and no pads. I`ll wait till the pre-season ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I see your Rex Ryan and raise you a Greg Roman. If you get bored some time you should look at Alex Smith's stats before and after Greg Roman boom.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) I read this today and immediately thought of Manuel. and how Marrone coached him after the knee injuries. take what you will from it http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/29/cardinals-to-give-logan-thomas-a-ton-of-work-this-offseason/ it's Arians quotes about the care and feeding of a rookie QB that caught my eye Edited March 29, 2015 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I read this today and immediately thought of Manuel. and how Marrone coached him after the knee injuries. take what you will from it http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/29/cardinals-to-give-logan-thomas-a-ton-of-work-this-offseason/ it's Arians quotes about the care and feeding of a rookie QB that caught my eye Sounds like the best thing Marrone did was pull EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 im all in on ej, until we can get a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I've been saying this forever...If EJ fixes one thing...one thing...he'll be a top 15, maybe even top 10 QB in the NFL... And that one thing is this...When he picks the right receiver...the open receiver... he's got to hit them in stride...If he does nothing else but that it will be a massive step in the right direction... No more too low, too high, behind throws...In stride to the open receiver...And then we'll have something... this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Sounds like the best thing Marrone did was pull EJ. After the JJ Watt experience ? You might be right ! He was already wounded by then though. Lets hope he has recovered mentally from that beat down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 After the JJ Watt experience ? You might be right ! He was already wounded by then though. Lets hope he has recovered mentally from that beat down. As they say, better late than never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 im all in on ej, until we can get a starter. see , not a hater ^ : ) As they say, better late than never. thats what we have to hope! Remember the old 3 year rule for QBs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 After the JJ Watt experience ? You might be right ! He was already wounded by then though. Lets hope he has recovered mentally from that beat down. Probably should have pulled him before. I'm still surprised EJ survived that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I see your Rex Ryan and raise you a Greg Roman. If you get bored some time you should look at Alex Smith's stats before and after Greg Roman Harbaugh. I was bored, so I fixed that for you. You should take a look at what happened to Kaepernick (under Roman) after Harbaugh started "mailing it in" last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I was bored, so I fixed that for you. You should take a look at what happened to Kaepernick (under Roman) after Harbaugh started "mailing it in" last season. Except that Harbaugh took over more of the offensive game planning and play calls in 2014. So your sentence should read: Look what happened to Kapernick when Harghbaugh took over more of the offense. He wanted Kapernick passing more. Look what happened. http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2014/02/04/49ers-points-of-emphasis-going-into-2014-xxx/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Probably should have pulled him before. I'm still surprised EJ survived that game. Its hindsight of course , but i might agree. and thats even before the politics of Marrone and Orton. Except that Harbaugh took over more of the offensive game planning and play calls in 2014. So your sentence should read: Look what happened to Kapernick when Harghbaugh took over more of the offense. He wanted Kapernick passing more. Look what happened. http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2014/02/04/49ers-points-of-emphasis-going-into-2014-xxx/ I thought this was the consensus by now ? harbaugh and CK did not mesh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) EJ's faults may be correctible. Look for him to compete for the starting job. imo EJ has the tools on paper. He does have to grow a pair, and learn to read a defense. Enough of those soft, p.u.s.s.y throws, already. Until then, I say it's more likely he's out of the NFL by next year. Edited March 29, 2015 by Ted William's frozen head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Except that Harbaugh took over more of the offensive game planning and play calls in 2014. So your sentence should read: Look what happened to Kapernick when Harghbaugh took over more of the offense. He wanted Kapernick passing more. Look what happened. http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2014/02/04/49ers-points-of-emphasis-going-into-2014-xxx/ Yep. I was worried about the Roman hire until I read some of the San Fran press and there is plenty of evidence that 2014 was more Harbaugh and less Roman. Far from mailing it in Harbaugh's reaction to the front office throwing him under a bus was to try and do more to prove them wrong rather than standing back and doing less. Edited March 29, 2015 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I am not sure that kaepernick is above average himself All the better then. The man turned in some incredible play in the system while riding an incredible defense and strong run game. When your worst season in 4 years is 8-8, in a division with the NFC Champion Seahawks and the 10-6 Cardinals, that's a pretty strong track record of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Except that Harbaugh took over more of the offensive game planning and play calls in 2014. So your sentence should read: Look what happened to Kapernick when Harghbaugh took over more of the offense. He wanted Kapernick passing more. Look what happened. http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2014/02/04/49ers-points-of-emphasis-going-into-2014-xxx/ That same reporter says that Roman called the played and that Harbaugh relayed them to Kaep and "occasionally" changed the play. Same paper published this in December: http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_27069766/49ers-offensive-woes-roman-or-kaepernick-blame Wasn't really all about Harbaugh. Although Alex Smith's turnaround was widely attributed to Harbaugh, not Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Wasn't really all about Harbaugh. Although Alex Smith's turnaround was widely attributed to Harbaugh, not Roman. In the press, anything a team does is generally attributed to the HC unless there's incontrovertible proof otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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