/dev/null Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/02/middleeast/baghdad-car-bombs/ So was this one a result of Trump's rhetoric, NRA blood money, Republican intransigence, Global Cooling Warming Climate Change Disruption Chaos, not making $15 an hour, or the North Carolina potty laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 Bombing Kills More Than 140 in Baghdad BAGHDAD — As Iraqis gathered late on Saturday night in central Baghdad to eat, shop and just be together to celebrate one of the last evenings of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, a huge bomb exploded and killed at least 143 people, the third mass slaughter of civilians in three countries carried out by the Islamic State in recent days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Bombing Kills More Than 140 in Baghdad BAGHDAD — As Iraqis gathered late on Saturday night in central Baghdad to eat, shop and just be together to celebrate one of the last evenings of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, a huge bomb exploded and killed at least 143 people, the third mass slaughter of civilians in three countries carried out by the Islamic State in recent days. If there's one thing we learned from the occupation of Iraq, it's that no one cares about brown people that smell like camels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 If there's one thing we learned from the occupation of Iraq, it's that no one cares about brown people that smell like camels. ISIS is a scourge upon civilization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) If there's one thing we learned from the occupation of Iraq, it's that no one cares about brown people that smell like camels. Just saw a post on facebook reminiscing about how there were no suicide attacks in Iraq pre 2003 invasion. Wait for them to start hailing Saddam Hussein as a man of the people, and we tore him and his stable government down for our own purposes. We may have been ill advised to invade a country we weren't prepared to follow through with, but Saddam Hussein was a monster that deserved to be put down for the atrocities committed against his own people. Edited July 4, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 You can't fight a kinder gentler war. You can't leave a hostile chaotic area and leave a vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Just saw a post on facebook reminiscing about how there were no suicide attacks in Iraq pre 2003 invasion. Wait for them to start hailing Saddam Hussein as a man of the people, and we tore him and his stable government down for our own purposes. We may have been ill advised to invade a country we weren't prepared to follow through with, but Saddam Hussein was a monster that deserved to be put down for the atrocities committed against his own people. When he was in power there were plenty of suicide bombers. It's just that he was smart enough to pay them to do it somewhere else: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) When he was in power there were plenty of suicide bombers. It's just that he was smart enough to pay them to do it somewhere else: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129914 Nice find.You'd think facts would stop these people in their tracks but I guarantee 20 years from now, people will revise history to believe Saddam wasn't that bad, and Iraq was much better off with him in control. Edited July 4, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Nice find.You'd think facts would stop these people in their tracks but I guarantee 20 years from now, people will revise history to believe Saddam wasn't that bad, and Iraq was much better off with him in control. 20 years from now? I've been having that argument with people for the past 5 years. "But under Saddam, Iraq had universal health care, universal education, religious freedom under a secular government, nobody starved, and was safe from extremists!" Yeah...just ignore the mass graves and multiple bloody wars he started. Everything was peachy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 The only "good" he did was stabilize that region. Not unlike Gadaffi. The way he did it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 20 years from now? I've been having that argument with people for the past 5 years. "But under Saddam, Iraq had universal health care, universal education, religious freedom under a secular government, nobody starved, and was safe from extremists!" Yeah...just ignore the mass graves and multiple bloody wars he started. Everything was peachy. The DNC could run Saddam Hussien against Trump, and the interwebs would be filled with Progressives talking about how Hussein would be great for America, and then argue that if you don't vote for him, you obviously hate people of color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) 20 years from now? I've been having that argument with people for the past 5 years. "But under Saddam, Iraq had universal health care, universal education, religious freedom under a secular government, nobody starved, and was safe from extremists!" Yeah...just ignore the mass graves and multiple bloody wars he started. Everything was peachy. I say 20 years from now because right now people like you will argue with them, but 20 years from now the 90's kids will be in their 40's and the younger generation will do more revising than we will do correcting. Edited July 4, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 The only "good" he did was stabilize that region. Not unlike Gadaffi. The way he did it... People forget that Qaddafi Duck was normalizing relations with his world-wide enemies - he'd denounced terrorism, ceased his WMD programs and welcomed international inspections of the decommissioning, was removed from the list of states sponsoring terrorism, and resumed full diplomatic relations with the US. In 2006. That's right...the Bush administration normalized relations with Libya and disarmed Qaddafi. Diplomatically. It took the "interventionist non-intervention" policies of the Obama administration to undo all that and !@#$ it up in spectacular fashion - take "credit" for ousting a leader we'd normalized relations with, who wasn't sponsoring terrorism and wasn't a regional threat, even though it was the Europeans who did all the work (and leave the guy who DOES sponsor terrorism, has an active WMD program, and is a regional threat, in power because the Europeans won't do the heavy lifting for you, even though you drew a "red line.") Stupidest, most incoherent foreign policy ever. And that includes a Clinton administration that created a safe haven for al Qaeda in Afghanistan because Mavis Leno was offended by "gender apartheid" in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 People forget that Qaddafi Duck was normalizing relations with his world-wide enemies - he'd denounced terrorism, ceased his WMD programs and welcomed international inspections of the decommissioning, was removed from the list of states sponsoring terrorism, and resumed full diplomatic relations with the US. In 2006. That's right...the Bush administration normalized relations with Libya and disarmed Qaddafi. Diplomatically. It took the "interventionist non-intervention" policies of the Obama administration to undo all that and !@#$ it up in spectacular fashion - take "credit" for ousting a leader we'd normalized relations with, who wasn't sponsoring terrorism and wasn't a regional threat, even though it was the Europeans who did all the work (and leave the guy who DOES sponsor terrorism, has an active WMD program, and is a regional threat, in power because the Europeans won't do the heavy lifting for you, even though you drew a "red line.") Stupidest, most incoherent foreign policy ever. And that includes a Clinton administration that created a safe haven for al Qaeda in Afghanistan because Mavis Leno was offended by "gender apartheid" in the area. Yup. Stupid and, at least in Barry's case, hypocritical. This (and to a lesser degree Banghazi and the "recharge" button presented to Russia) are why she has no business being president because while she supported Iraq, she didn't learn from her first mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) After Slaughter, Bangladesh Reels at Revelations About AttackersNew York Times, by Julfikar Ali Manik & Geeta Anand Original Article Killers not street scum but products of Bangladesh elite families and prep schools. . It's about time that we (and the administration) quit pretending otherwise.................. Sorry, I'll go back to pretending that the month of suicide bombs & terror attacks have nothing to do w/ Ramadan. Probably militant Quakers. . Edited July 5, 2016 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 20 years from now? I've been having that argument with people for the past 5 years. "But under Saddam, Iraq had universal health care, universal education, religious freedom under a secular government, nobody starved, and was safe from extremists!" Yeah...just ignore the mass graves and multiple bloody wars he started. Everything was peachy. Not to mention attempted genocides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Not to mention attempted genocides. I'll also add "Saddam is our fault because we put him in power" as another claim. We thought plenty about removing him, but were not confident anyone replacing him would be any better. Either way, we get the blame for waiting too long to remove him, and on the other end, the blame for removing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) It looks like only dictatorships in the Middle East could prevent total chaos. Gaddafi , Saddam , the Shah , Assad . Now it is all out war between Shia and Sunni , with minorities in grave danger. A massive wave of refugees and dead civilians as a grim result. Even Afghanistan should have been left alone except for air strikes against al qaeda , just leave them be in the stone age. the E.U. is up in arms at the 1 million Syrian refugees who entered its borders last year. 2015 While the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region currently hosts around 4.8 million Syrian refugees alone (not to mention Iraqi, Palestinian and many others) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/14/the-real-refugee-crisis-is-in-the-middle-east-not-europe/ Edited July 6, 2016 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Don't F with the SAS. straight bada55. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sas-hero-takes-out-3-isis-jihadists-armed-only-gurkha-knife-fallujah-1568888?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=/rss/yahoous/news&yptr=yahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Don't F with the SAS. straight bada55. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sas-hero-takes-out-3-isis-jihadists-armed-only-gurkha-knife-fallujah-1568888?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=/rss/yahoous/news&yptr=yahoo Beheaded one of them with a kukri he got from a Gurkha. SAS are badass. Gurkhas are seriously badass. http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/g2173/10-amazing-gurkha-stories/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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