B-Man Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 This needs its own thread. Gunmen storm Paris satirical newspaper, killing at least 12. “Masked gunmen opened fire Wednesday in the offices of a French satirical newspaper known for provocative content on Islam, killing at least 12 people and then escaping after carrying out the country’s bloodiest terrorist attack in decades.” You know, if we aren’t careful this will cause people to think of Islam as violent. Plus, Amir Taheri: Terror in Paris — the limits of appeasement. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Workplace violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Too bad for France that Security wasn't there to protect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Workplace violence. Yes, well Dante, the Obama administration wouldn't even go that far this morning. In Paris, France, two masked gunmen killed 12 people at the office of Charlie Hebdo, a satirical magazine that in 2012 published a series of cartoons featuring Muhammad. In 2011, Charlie Hebdo published a “spoof issue” guest edited by Muhammad, after which their Paris office was firebombed. There are reports that the killers yelled “Allahu Akbar” during their rampage . For White House spokesman (Press Secretary) Josh Earnest, that was apparently not enough to establish motivation for the horrible act of terrorism: on msnbc few minutes ago, he said "we don't know yet the motivation of the Paris terrorists". He said that with a straight face. Here is how you respond................. Senator Ted Cruz @SenTedCruz · 23m 23 minutes ago The US stands in solidarity w/ our long-standing NATO ally France in this ongoing battle w/ radical Islamic terror: https://www.facebook.com/SenatorTedCruz/posts/673699292742374 … . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Yes, well Dante, the Obama administration wouldn't even go that far this morning. In Paris, France, two masked gunmen killed 12 people at the office of Charlie Hebdo, a satirical magazine that in 2012 published a series of cartoons featuring Muhammad. In 2011, Charlie Hebdo published a “spoof issue” guest edited by Muhammad, after which their Paris office was firebombed. There are reports that the killers yelled “Allahu Akbar” during their rampage . For White House spokesman (Press Secretary) Josh Earnest, that was apparently not enough to establish motivation for the horrible act of terrorism: on msnbc few minutes ago, he said "we don't know yet the motivation of the Paris terrorists". He said that with a straight face. Here is how you respond................. . And just think if one of those Frenchmen had a conceal carry permit? Maybe some lives are saved and we are down at least one terrorist. I wonder if they would ever try something like this in Texas where the csuckers might get blown away? Everything this administration does and says seems to be a effort to harm the US and empower or protect the enemy. Weird, weird world and country right now. Edited January 7, 2015 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 You know, if we aren’t careful this will cause people to think of Islam as violent. Gee, I can't wait to hear our President tell us that's not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yippie, more hashtag responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Perhaps we do need a hashtag.#NonMuslimLivesMatter comes to mind. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I have to take Active Shooter training every year working for the DoD. They seriously frown upon whipping out your weapon and fighting back... UNLESS it was a last resort @ DEFENSE. I purposely get that question wrong on the test every year. Oh... The right answer? They want you to hide. These damn mixed messages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Maybe this should go in OTW thread of pet peeves. But my #1 is people with no sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I have to take Active Shooter training every year working for the DoD. They seriously frown upon whipping out your weapon and fighting back... UNLESS it was a last resort @ DEFENSE. I purposely get that question wrong on the test every year. Oh... The right answer? They want you to hide. These damn mixed messages... It should come as a surprise to no one that the DOD rules of engagement under this administration begin with "Hide!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Maybe this should go in OTW thread of pet peeves. But my #1 is people with no sense of humor. Can't fault me there. I am accused @ laughing everything off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yippie, more hashtag responses. #JeSuisCharlie. We are one massive pile of embarrassing dogschit. Next thing you know they'll be holding pencils in the air as a show of solidarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 #JeSuisCharlie. Crappy 70's perfume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 #JeSuisCharlie. We are one massive pile of embarrassing dogschit. Next thing you know they'll be holding pencils in the air as a show of solidarity. #No.2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 #No.2? Ticonderoga, no doubt. What strikes me is how tens of thousands of Frenchies are gathered together, holding up pencils, standing in solidarity of....what exactly? What do they think is going to happen tomorrow when they leave? Nothing, that's what. But they have a hashtag. And they have a pencil. So that's a start, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Ticonderoga, no doubt. Battle of Carillon was a French victory during the French/Indian War. Very Bloody too! The British instead of flanking around the pencil like pikes (fortification breastwork) attempted to go right through them. You can guess what the end result was? Not exactly Vlad Dracula, but you get the idea. When the fort changed names to Ticonderoga... Ethan Allen & Benedict Arnold took the fort how? The sentry left the front door open as he ran for help! Fitting! ;-P ;-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I have to take Active Shooter training every year working for the DoD. They seriously frown upon whipping out your weapon and fighting back... UNLESS it was a last resort @ DEFENSE. I purposely get that question wrong on the test every year. Oh... The right answer? They want you to hide. These damn mixed messages... Yeah I do that too when I have to take that. Man if I get the chance, I'm not hiding. I'm fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I have to take Active Shooter training every year working for the DoD. They seriously frown upon whipping out your weapon and fighting back... UNLESS it was a last resort @ DEFENSE. I purposely get that question wrong on the test every year. Oh... The right answer? They want you to hide. These damn mixed messages... It's a liability thing. You accidentally shoot a coworker (or shoot the shooter and he lives), the company's liable for your actions. Shooter shoots you or your coworker, company's not responsible. Personally...someone comes into my office shooting, I take him down or die trying. Probably die, since I'm not likely to be armed with more than a stapler. But I still try, because - and here is the key point - I refuse to just sit back and let things happen to me. There's a name for people like that, they're called "victims." And I refuse to be a !@#$ing victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yay, religious extremists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yay, religious extremists. Yeah because extremists from all religions are shooting up people over cartoons and chopping off the heads of non-believers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeah because extremists from all religions are shooting up people over cartoons and chopping off the heads of non-believers. Currently, yeah, it's a lot of Islam. Throughout history, it's varied. And it always comes down to extremism, not the particular god(s) you subscribe to. It wasn't that long ago when we had an organized group of Christian extremists murdering African Americans, Jews and Catholics, all in the name of Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Currently, yeah, it's a lot of Islam. Throughout history, it's varied. And it always comes down to extremism, not the particular god(s) you subscribe to. It wasn't that long ago when we had an organized group of Christian extremists murdering African Americans, Jews and Catholics, all in the name of Jesus Christ. Yes, but Christians and Christian leaders publicly and loudly denounced that behavior and mindset. Muslims and Muslim leaders are nearly silent on the matter which is either due to fear or a show of support or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yes, but Christians and Christian leaders publicly and loudly denounced that behavior and mindset. Muslims and Muslim leaders are nearly silent on the matter which is either due to fear or a show of support or both. 30 second search: http://www.wsj.com/articles/muslim-leaders-condemn-attack-warn-on-anti-islamic-sentiment-in-europe-1420654885 http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/france-s-muslim-leaders/1575190.html http://www.ibtimes.com/moderate-muslims-use-jesuischarlie-condemn-charlie-hebdo-attack-paris-1775986 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/07/muslims-respond-charlie-hebdo_n_6429710.html As far as getting support from nations that are headed by extremist ideologies? Well, that's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Yeah I do that too when I have to take that. Man if I get the chance, I'm not hiding. I'm fighting. That's the funny... I wouldn't have a gun... But it's the civilan side and who the frig would come to were I am @? So many gr8 places to hide, they'd never find anybody but water! LoL... Yet... The site I work at was built in 1960 @ the height of the Cold War. I've read the original security plan. It had two service revolvers and a shotgun listed. Nobody knows what happened to them through the years. I started in 1992 there and even the old boss (since retired and dead) was mum? He was there and worked for the Corps (US Army Engineers) up through the 1950's into when I started. NOW... @ one time very early on, they only required one person on shift @ site (afternoons/midnights)... I suppose the weapons would come in handy?? Thing is... I guess they don't want you responding is because how do they determine who the active shooter really is? Edited January 7, 2015 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The most surprising thing about this is that France hasn't yet surrendered to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Currently, yeah, it's a lot of Islam. Throughout history, it's varied. You know when you won't care that it has been "varied throughout history"? When your head is rolling down a flight of stairs, that's when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The most surprising thing about this is that France hasn't yet surrendered to anyone. They're working on it. Cassoulet and a bottle of Burgundy for dinner takes a lot out of you. Currently, yeah, it's a lot of Islam. Throughout history, it's varied. And it always comes down to extremism, not the particular god(s) you subscribe to. It wasn't that long ago when we had an organized group of Christian extremists murdering African Americans, Jews and Catholics, all in the name of Jesus Christ. I just care about what's going on currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 And just think if one of those Frenchmen had a conceal carry permit? Maybe some lives are saved and we are down at least one terrorist. I wonder if they would ever try something like this in Texas where the csuckers might get blown away? What's interesting to me is that the French policemen who responded didn't have guns. I did a triple take when I read about that. What a weird, insane, lefty world Europe has become. But you're right, the citizens could've used some guns as well. In particular, the person who recorded the rooftop video of the Muslims shooting the cop in the head... that person could've been more useful with a gun from that vantage point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 You know when you won't care that it has been "varied throughout history"? When your head is rolling down a flight of stairs, that's when. What are the odds of an American citizen getting beheaded by an Islamic extremist? And can you compare them to the odds of death by other means? I need to know exactly how worried I'm supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yay, religious extremists. How extreme are these guys really, though? Not in fundamental beliefs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Currently, yeah, it's a lot of Islam. Throughout history, it's varied. And it always comes down to extremism, not the particular god(s) you subscribe to. It wasn't that long ago when we had an organized group of Christian extremists murdering African Americans, Jews and Catholics, all in the name of Jesus Christ. This is why people find progressives to be embarrassingly bad at doing anything beyond handing out other people's money to people who don't deserve it. Look. We get it. You think you're somehow smarter than everyone else because you can come up with another name for Muslim terrorists, but trust me...the number of people who think like you are getting smaller, mostly because they keep getting murdered by Muslim terrorists. Edited January 7, 2015 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 What are the odds of an American citizen getting beheaded by an Islamic extremist? And can you compare them to the odds of death by other means? I need to know exactly how worried I'm supposed to be. Yeah... I wanna see how this is wrecking havoc on the actuary tables! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 They're working on it. Cassoulet and a bottle of Burgundy for dinner takes a lot out of you. What's to work on? Just call up Angela Merkel. Nothing wrong with tradition. What are the odds of an American citizen getting beheaded by an Islamic extremist? And can you compare them to the odds of death by other means? I need to know exactly how worried I'm supposed to be. It depends. What are the odds Obama introduces the guillotine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 What's to work on? Just call up Angela Merkel. Nothing wrong with tradition. Have you ever eaten a huge pot of cassoulet with a bottle of Burgundy. Even picking up the phone is a chore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Have you ever eaten a huge pot of cassoulet with a bottle of Burgundy. Even picking up the phone is a chore. Have you ever surrendered to the Germans? The French do it effortlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Have you ever surrendered to the Germans? As a matter of fact I did. I married one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 30 second search: http://www.wsj.com/articles/muslim-leaders-condemn-attack-warn-on-anti-islamic-sentiment-in-europe-1420654885 http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/france-s-muslim-leaders/1575190.html http://www.ibtimes.com/moderate-muslims-use-jesuischarlie-condemn-charlie-hebdo-attack-paris-1775986 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/07/muslims-respond-charlie-hebdo_n_6429710.html As far as getting support from nations that are headed by extremist ideologies? Well, that's not going to happen. There's a world of difference between "publicly denouncing" the actions and excommunicating the terrorists from the religion and society. Now, when we see the vast majority of Muslims who are allegedly as appalled by these actions as the rest of the civilized society - start to actively cleanse their flock of the practitioners of evil - then we may take them more seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 As a matter of fact I did. I married one. I lol'd at this. The ultimate surrender. Are you French? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirdborn Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I have always thought of myself as "leaning left" , but there comes a time when you have to abandon your political affiliations in the face of sensless brutality. Sensless brutaluty should be met with coldcalculated intelligent brutality. Capture these souless !@#$s. Hang them. Bury them wuth swine. Televise it all. Close their !@#$ing borders, cut off their trade. Man up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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