IDBillzFan Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 In retrospect, maybe Joe Biden is the perfect partner for POTUS. The jobs-for-terrorists concept is right out of the playbook of the current administration. Can't you just see yesterday's terrorists installing today's solar panels on a home near you? Today might not be a good day to bring in Biden. He got a little grabby at the podium again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Today might not be a good day to bring in Biden. He got a little grabby at the podium again. It really is scary who is running this deal. From top to bottom. It really is like a bunch of liberal college students with the keys to the car. Absurdities come so often now that I'm getting numb to it. Like the nut job that said the way to fight ISIS is to get them jobs. It's way beyond how bad I thought it would be when the islamic commie(and his beautiful feminine looking wife ) took the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) U.S. is pretty concerned about Egypt, UAE taking fight to ISIS in Libya FTA: The Saudis and Egyptians still command the most influence over the region’s Sunni elements who are not predisposed to gravitate toward the rapidly expanding caliphate. Given these conditions, it is unsurprising that the Pentagon would express its dismay over dangerous demonstrations of force from any one member of this multipolar dynamic. But what else could these two nations do? When facing a threat to their national securities, and confronted by the fact that their Western partners simply refuse to address those regional challenges comprehensively, of course Cairo and Abu Dhabi would take matters into their own hands as is their sovereign right. Unless the United States is willing to extend its security umbrella over the Middle East and to absolve these nations of their responsibility to provide for their defense (thus filling the vacuum the administration created), who can blame these nations for serving as custodians of their own interests? History is returning to the Middle East as aspiring powers vie to fill the void created when the West abandoned Iraq. While the Pentagon can issue half-hearted objections to the inevitable consequences of American retrenchment, there is little they can do to stop them. It is a small comfort that Kirby is not pretending that these nations going it alone is a welcome development in order to curry favor with those who will welcome American disentanglement from this volatile region. More at the link: . Edited February 18, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/18/italy-prepares-for-war-with-isis-from-the-south/ Italy yet another european nation weakened by socialism has no military to speak of. Of course they don't when you have social programs to allocate resources to. Who needs tanks and stuff? Edited February 18, 2015 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/18/italy-prepares-for-war-with-isis-from-the-south/ Italy yet another european nation weakened by socialism has no military to speak of. Of course they don't when you have social programs to allocate resources to. Who needs tanks and stuff? For years, progressives have argued that the United States has no business getting involved in anything outside our borders. They've said we need to let the rest of the world take care of themselves. We can't save everyone, they argue. We can't build nations. We can't spread democracy. We have roads that need to be repaired. Bridges that need a paint job. Teachers who need more money. They're watching that all come to fruition now, and I fear we're about to embark on a very, very, very dark journey together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 For years, progressives have argued that the United States has no business getting involved in anything outside our borders. They've said we need to let the rest of the world take care of themselves. We can't save everyone, they argue. We can't build nations. We can't spread democracy. We have roads that need to be repaired. Bridges that need a paint job. Teachers who need more money. They're watching that all come to fruition now, and I fear we're about to embark on a very, very, very dark journey together. What dark journey would that be? Is ISIS massing at our borders? Are we not energy independent? Are our industries and corporations as rich and healthy as ever? What threat do you see? It is ugly to watch...but not a threat to our borders.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) For years, progressives have argued that the United States has no business getting involved in anything outside our borders. They've said we need to let the rest of the world take care of themselves. We can't save everyone, they argue. We can't build nations. We can't spread democracy. We have roads that need to be repaired. Bridges that need a paint job. Teachers who need more money. They're watching that all come to fruition now, and I fear we're about to embark on a very, very, very dark journey together. Liberals live with utopian blinders on. What I can never understand is they don't posses even the most rudimentary knowledge or memory of history. How could you not have the means to defend your country? Thats the most basic of needs. I admit I tend to be a bit isolationist. That doesn't mean I don't think we should have the best military in the world I do. It does appear that at some time very soon we are going to need it. I find it hard to believe that we are going to be prepared though with the way that the trader in chief seems to be protecting ISIS. And while the terrorists are running rampant he is still banging the drum of the open border horseshit. The guy should be arrested for leaving us so vulnerable. Edited February 19, 2015 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 What dark journey would that be? Is ISIS massing at our borders? Are we not energy independent? Are our industries and corporations as rich and healthy as ever? What threat do you see? It is ugly to watch...but not a threat to our borders.... How do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) What dark journey would that be? Is ISIS massing at our borders? Are we not energy independent? Are our industries and corporations as rich and healthy as ever? What threat do you see? It is ugly to watch...but not a threat to our borders.... When I see they have designs on Italy I get nervous. Couple that with the the politically correct leftist open immigration policies of a lot of Europe, that is now lousey with muslims, I get real nervous. Edited February 19, 2015 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/18/italy-prepares-for-war-with-isis-from-the-south/ Italy yet another european nation weakened by socialism has no military to speak of. Of course they don't when you have social programs to allocate resources to. Who needs tanks and stuff? You really think it's socialism that weakened Italy lol That's like saying Amy Winehouse destroyed herself by drinking too much coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 You really think it's socialism that weakened Italy lol That's like saying Amy Winehouse destroyed herself by drinking too much coffee. By default it weakens all countries. It's failed political system. Italy has no military why do you think that is? Especially with the most unstable region in the world right across the way. Doesn't make sense you would have no means to protect yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 When I see they have designs on Italy I get nervous. Couple that with the the politically correct leftist open immigration policies of a lot of Europe, that is now lousey with muslims, I get real nervous. You should go on vacation. The fear machine has you in its thresher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 You should go on vacation. The fear machine has you in its thresher. Where can he go that the socialists won't get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 What dark journey would that be?Not 100% sure, but I wonder if it'll start with someone being burned alive in a cage for all the world to watch. Lining up dozens of poor, desperate people and slitting their throats on a beach. Murdering another 45 after that. Or maybe progressives like yourself just decided having compassion for others really isn't that important to you anymore. Or maybe your compaassion will return when it's not a progressive in the WH playing golf while humans burn. I suspect this is closer to the truth than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) Not 100% sure, but I wonder if it'll start with someone being burned alive in a cage for all the world to watch. Lining up dozens of poor, desperate people and slitting their throats on a beach. Murdering another 45 after that. Or maybe progressives like yourself just decided having compassion for others really isn't that important to you anymore. Or maybe your compaassion will return when it's not a progressive in the WH playing golf while humans burn. I suspect this is closer to the truth than anything else. You are mighty quick to label me - what have I said that identifies me as a "progressive" - I don't know what that even means. You "conservatives" on this board seem mighty quick to liberally use our military and mold the rest the world into our vision of conduct - but on the other hand you seethe when this happens in our own borders....so which is it? Has anyone on this board served in the military over there? I would consider actions in the ME if I saw them as having a chance to succeed. I don't. I have been to the ME a handful of times on business and the hatred these people have for each other is palpable - bear in mind that is a purely anecdotal observation. Parts of various religious sects and countries literally want to just kill each other. It appears that the only way to run a country like Iran is the manner in SH did - with an iron fist. We speak of the thousands that died under his rule - but what has happened in his void. The only way to avoid the horror of what is happening there is a generational military presence - the countries and people there are not motivated to work together to stop ISIS. This military presence would cost trillions - who is going to have the temerity to propose such and action AND ask the taxpayers to pay for it. Again - this would be a go alone event - the world has not shown motivation to assemble such an effort let alone the countries in the ME. Someone asked me: - The US is energy positive at $100 per barrel - US corporate values and assets are now more than our entire economy - that has never happened - ISIS massing at our border? Pretty sure they are not. Are they planning something like 9-11 - probably - them and Al Qaida too - I am also quite positive that the DHS. CIA, FBI, and our military have mobilized to monitor, seek, look for, investigate etc. planning for such and destroy these efforts in an ongoing manner - that is the threat ISIS poses - and from what I see - we have been successful at defending ourselves. You guys seem disappointed by the current state of affairs. BO has sent congress an authorization bill for further military action in the ME and as it pertains to ISIS. Has congress done anything with it? Have the compassionate conservatives reviewed this and either added to it or clarified what they would do, write a bill, and pass it? Nope - because they are all paper tigers - full of blow - but simply to small to actually do something. Edited February 19, 2015 by baskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 You really think it's socialism that weakened Italy lol Italy has really been on the downslope since Chef Boyarde emigrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) You are mighty quick to label me - what have I said that identifies me as a "progressive" - I don't know what that even means. You "conservatives" on this board seem mighty quick to liberally use our military and mold the rest the world into our vision of conduct - but on the other hand you seethe when this happens in our own borders....so which is it? Has anyone on this board served in the military over there? I would consider actions in the ME if I saw them as having a chance to succeed. I don't. I have been to the ME a handful of times on business and the hatred these people have for each other is palpable - bear in mind that is a purely anecdotal observation. Parts of various religious sects and countries literally want to just kill each other. It appears that the only way to run a country like Iran is the manner in SH did - with an iron fist. We speak of the thousands that died under his rule - but what has happened in his void. The only way to avoid the horror of what is happening there is a generational military presence - the countries and people there are not motivated to work together to stop ISIS. This military presence would cost trillions - who is going to have the temerity to propose such and action AND ask the taxpayers to pay for it. Again - this would be a go alone event - the world has not shown motivation to assemble such an effort let alone the countries in the ME. Someone asked me: - The US is energy positive at $100 per barrel - US corporate values and assets are now more than our entire economy - that has never happened - ISIS massing at our border? Pretty sure they are not. Are they planning something like 9-11 - probably - them and Al Qaida too - I am also quite positive that the DHS. CIA, FBI, and our military have mobilized to monitor, seek, look for, investigate etc. planning for such and destroy these efforts in an ongoing manner - that is the threat ISIS poses - and from what I see - we have been successful at defending ourselves. You guys seem disappointed by the current state of affairs. BO has sent congress an authorization bill for further military action in the ME and as it pertains to ISIS. Has congress done anything with it? Have the compassionate conservatives reviewed this and either added to it or clarified what they would do, write a bill, and pass it? Nope - because they are all paper tigers - full of blow - but simply to small to actually do something. So in other words, we haven't been where you've been, seen what you've seen or know what you know, so if we're not in agreement with everything you say, we're obviously wrong. And you wonder why I label you a progressive. You asked me what dark journey I thought would come. That you didn't like or expect that I had a viable answer is on you, not me. Likewise for what we consider "dark." What I do know beyond that is what I see in front of me. Our president has a history -- a LONG history -- of doing things for the exclusive sake of responding to criticism and to make him look busy. These things inevitably are done with an emphasis on his own interest. As a result of such consistently self-serving habits, Congress naturally wants to ensure his request for military action in the ME actually makes sense since pretty much every other action he has taken in the last six years has decidedly NOT made sense beyond helping the president (a) lie with some garbage talking point or (b) provide a gateway to more fundraising. And as was mentioned earlier, one of the few things this government IS designed to do is to protect the citizens of this country. Perhaps had the current leader made protecting the country more important than playing golf and ignoring the multiple world-wide murder of Christians and Jews, the world -- and people like yourself -- would not view us as the paper lion he has led us to be. Edited February 19, 2015 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Where can he go that the socialists won't get him? Certainly not Canada. Quebec even less. Try to stay warm up their. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 So in other words, we haven't been where you've been, seen what you've seen or know what you know, so if we're not in agreement with everything you say, we're obviously wrong. And you wonder why I label you a progressive. You asked me what dark journey I thought would come. That you didn't like or expect that I had a viable answer is on you, not me. Likewise for what we consider "dark." What I do know beyond that is what I see in front of me. Our president has a history -- a LONG history -- of doing things for the exclusive sake of responding to criticism and to make him look busy. These things inevitably are done with an emphasis on his own interest. As a result of such consistently self-serving habits, Congress naturally wants to ensure his request for military action in the ME actually makes sense since pretty much every other action he has taken in the last six years has decidedly NOT made sense beyond helping the president (a) lie with some garbage talking point or (b) provide a gateway to more fundraising. And as was mentioned earlier, one of the few things this government IS designed to do is to protect the citizens of this country. Perhaps had the current leader made protecting the country more important than playing golf and ignoring the multiple world-wide murder of Christians and Jews, the world -- and people like yourself -- would not view us as the paper lion he has led us to be. I still have no idea what "progressive" means. You seem obsessed with Obama - so much so you seem unable to unable to form your own proposal - pretty much like congress. POTUS is supposed to protect the US - our homeland has not been attacked or threatened in his presidency. No one is for the murders of anyone - people are murdered all day every day - the question is - where do you draw the line? So 20-50-100 people have been horrifically murdered - These murders are not a threat to the US - so do we put in harms way tens of thousands of our young men, hundreds of billions of dollars and the aftereffects of debt and the burden these soldiers come home with - as well as the casualties that we will incur that probably outnumber these murders? BTW - Didn't vote for BO, don't think he is a very good president, he ran on platform on getting out of the ME, got elected, and pulled out - which is what the clear majority of the US wanted. I just wonder where the GOP is on any of this....They are hiding under a rock because there is no good answer. All the GOP candidates refuse to address this subject. I can predict that the GOP will not even bring to the floor the ISIS authorization bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I still have no idea what "progressive" means. You seem obsessed with Obama - so much so you seem unable to unable to form your own proposal - pretty much like congress. POTUS is supposed to protect the US - our homeland has not been attacked or threatened in his presidency. No one is for the murders of anyone - people are murdered all day every day - the question is - where do you draw the line? So 20-50-100 people have been horrifically murdered - These murders are not a threat to the US - so do we put in harms way tens of thousands of our young men, hundreds of billions of dollars and the aftereffects of debt and the burden these soldiers come home with - as well as the casualties that we will incur that probably outnumber these murders? BTW - Didn't vote for BO, don't think he is a very good president, he ran on platform on getting out of the ME, got elected, and pulled out - which is what the clear majority of the US wanted. I just wonder where the GOP is on any of this....They are hiding under a rock because there is no good answer. All the GOP candidates refuse to address this subject. I can predict that the GOP will not even bring to the floor the ISIS authorization bill. Progressive is what you call yourself when you don't have the balls to go full Bernie Sanders. Perhaps the fundamental difference in the way we view things is I expect a leader to lead. I expect the commander in chief of our military to gather the smartest military minds (and we have plenty of them) to devise a plan to work with the international community to stop this threat. I expect the leader to then formulate a plan, explain it clearly to those from whom he will require help, make the case for his plan based on what he has heard from authoritative voices. You say these murders are not a threat to the US, and again, we clearly view things differently. First, they've already butchered Americans...perhaps not enough of them for you to care, but because I do care doesn't make me wrong. Additionally, just because they haven't gotten around to us yet in large quantities doesn't mean they won't, or can't, given the absolute disregard the president has for our borders. Lastly, it's a threat to Christians. It's a threat to Jews. Regardless of whether Obama wants to admit that. Christians and Jews all over the world are watching their brothers getting lit up like a barn full of old hay, and they want to help. Even the Pope, who progressives suddenly have a use for, is pleading for leaders to take action. Our country has ALWAYS been the leader, and it will once again, but right now we need a leader and what we have is a man whose idea of being a leader is to call another meeting before heading off to golf and raise funds. (That's not me being obsessive, but rather the undeniable truth. Look at Hassan, Pearl, Benghazi...and track the president's whereabouts directly after those events.) If I do seem obsessed with Obama, I would suggest that is because he's the freaking leader of the most powerful nation in the country and he seems to not give even the slightest inkling that he cares about ANTYHING beyond his own self-interests. Why would I NOT hold our leader accountable to do the one thing he KNOWS he's supposed to do; protect the citizens of this country. When our football team sucks, do I not nold accountable the owners and coach? When my company sucks, do I not hold accountable the owner and boss? Why would you have even the slightest disregard for how I hold our president to the fire for not doing what the entire world is waiting for him to do: fight back with something other than a powerpoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Certainly not Canada. Quebec even less. Try to stay warm up their. Yes stephen harper and philippe couillard are hardcore lefties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Progressive is what you call yourself when you don't have the balls to go full Bernie Sanders. Perhaps the fundamental difference in the way we view things is I expect a leader to lead. I expect the commander in chief of our military to gather the smartest military minds (and we have plenty of them) to devise a plan to work with the international community to stop this threat. I expect the leader to then formulate a plan, explain it clearly to those from whom he will require help, make the case for his plan based on what he has heard from authoritative voices. You say these murders are not a threat to the US, and again, we clearly view things differently. First, they've already butchered Americans...perhaps not enough of them for you to care, but because I do care doesn't make me wrong. Additionally, just because they haven't gotten around to us yet in large quantities doesn't mean they won't, or can't, given the absolute disregard the president has for our borders. Lastly, it's a threat to Christians. It's a threat to Jews. Regardless of whether Obama wants to admit that. Christians and Jews all over the world are watching their brothers getting lit up like a barn full of old hay, and they want to help. Even the Pope, who progressives suddenly have a use for, is pleading for leaders to take action. Our country has ALWAYS been the leader, and it will once again, but right now we need a leader and what we have is a man whose idea of being a leader is to call another meeting before heading off to golf and raise funds. (That's not me being obsessive, but rather the undeniable truth. Look at Hassan, Pearl, Benghazi...and track the president's whereabouts directly after those events.) If I do seem obsessed with Obama, I would suggest that is because he's the freaking leader of the most powerful nation in the country and he seems to not give even the slightest inkling that he cares about ANTYHING beyond his own self-interests. Why would I NOT hold our leader accountable to do the one thing he KNOWS he's supposed to do; protect the citizens of this country. When our football team sucks, do I not nold accountable the owners and coach? When my company sucks, do I not hold accountable the owner and boss? Why would you have even the slightest disregard for how I hold our president to the fire for not doing what the entire world is waiting for him to do: fight back with something other than a powerpoint? Maybe our difference is this: why bother looking for BO to lead. He has not yet. I look for the GOP for vision and they have come up small for years now. Immigration - no plan. Tax reform - nothing. Foreign policy - too scared. The GOP has congress in control and what have they done other than vote to overturn the ACA, and complain about BO. Talk about leading....the big problem I see is this lack of direction could very well mean 8 years of Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Is this just another form of Islamic terrorism? http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2015/02/19/fl-father-goes-public-after-school-instructs-son-on-muslim-prayer/?subscriber=1 A parent in Florida is concerned that his son was instructed to recite an Islamic prayer in a 10th grade history class. Lyman High School parent Ron Wagner has complained to local media after his son received a text from the history teacher reminding him to complete an assignment about Islamic prayer rugs. Imagine if a teacher required students to recite the Lord's Prayer, says John Stemberger of the Florida Family Council. Atheists and Muslims "would be up in arms" about that incident, he says, but students are being asked to cite major portions of the Islamic faith. "There's just hypocrisy here. There's a double standard," Stemberger tells OneNewsNow. "It's outrageous." News website The Daily Caller learned about Wagner's complaint, reporting that the father opened the textbook and read a chapter entitled "Rise of Islam." The story also reports that approximately 100 pages about Christianity and Judaism are missing from the textbook, which the school blamed on a "manufacturing defect." A school official told local media that the "Pillars of Islam" are "benchmarks" in Florida's public education curriculum. While that controversy was unfolding, Stemberger points out that a student at another Florida high school was disciplined for mentioning God during morning announcements. The Yulee High student ended the announcements by saying, "God bless America," and was disciplined after an atheist group threatened to sue, The Washington Times reported. Stemberger says such incidents occur more often than people realize and, unless the media picks up on it and reports it, parents often don't realize what's going on. ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Maybe our difference is this: why bother looking for BO to lead. He has not yet. I look for the GOP for vision and they have come up small for years now. Immigration - no plan. Tax reform - nothing. Foreign policy - too scared. The GOP has congress in control and what have they done other than vote to overturn the ACA, and complain about BO. Talk about leading....the big problem I see is this lack of direction could very well mean 8 years of Hillary. So to recap, why bother to look for BO to lead since he hasn't, so let's ingore BO and look to --and be critical of -- the GOP to lead, since they haven't. Did you not look to Harry Reid to lead when he had the Senate? All he did was sit on every bill sent to him by the Republican Congress. Did you not look to Nancy Pelosi to lead when she led Congress? All she did was hold a gun to her party's head to get ACA passed. Funny how someone who insists they're not a progressive is certain that the problems we've been watching for the past six years come down to a GOP congress, which has only been in the GOP hold for the past two years. Nope. You don't sound like a progressive at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) Yes stephen harper and philippe couillard are hardcore lefties. I don't follow Canadian politics ever since I moved from there. It was almost as frustrating as watching Barry and his dumb ass Ivy league idiots operate so I looked away. I first got wind that Harper might be actually good when I listened to my recently college graduating nieces drone on how bad he is. If Steve and Phillipe are as conservative as your indicating I may be tempted to relocate if things really go off the deep end here. So you got that to look forward to. Edited February 19, 2015 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 NY Post with a great cover as usual: http://nypost.com/cover/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) US Military Reveals Massive Plan to Attack and Retake Mosul from ISIS: http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2015/02/us-military-reveals-massive-plan-attack-retake-mosul-islamic-state/105669/ US, Turkey sign deal to train Syrian Rebels: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e4083f2e5977428a95623248aaeef3fe/us-embassy-turkey-us-sign-deal-train-arm-syrian-rebels Edited February 20, 2015 by GreggyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi has escalated his battle with ISIS in Libya by sending in Egypt’s special forces, which are considered some of the best in the world. Egyptian special forces have allegedly launched a ground attack in Libya’s Islamic State-held Derna capturing dozens of Islamist militants, according to Egyptian and Libyan reports. Ansa news agency cited unnamed local sources as saying that an Egyptian commando stormed the eastern Libyan town, a stronghold of the Islamic State (Isis) there, “capturing 55 Daesh [iS] militants”. The Libyan National Army wrote on its Facebook page that Egyptian forces in coordination with the local army stormed IS camp in Derna, “killing a large number of IS militants and capturing several terrorists including Egyptians, foreigners and Arabs”. An Egyptian newspaper, ElWatan News, reported that several jihadists were killed in the operation. I suspect that the only jobs program Sisi is interested in providing ISIS involves the funeral industry. . JIM TREACHER: If You Know About Marie Harf’s Bumbling, You Don’t Rely On Network News. “State Dept. Rush Chair Marie Harf has had a tough week. She’s spent the last few days blaming Islamic terrorism on a lack of good-paying jobs, explaining why you’re too dumb to understand why that’s true, Fortunately for her, the big three networks have got her back!” Obama: Republican rhetoric on Islamic terrorism is helping ISIS, you know......................Buffoonery . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Because he's missed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tN75e5gtw4&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Not 100% sure, but I wonder if it'll start with someone being burned alive in a cage for all the world to watch. Lining up dozens of poor, desperate people and slitting their throats on a beach. Murdering another 45 after that. Or maybe progressives like yourself just decided having compassion for others really isn't that important to you anymore. Or maybe your compaassion will return when it's not a progressive in the WH playing golf while humans burn. I suspect this is closer to the truth than anything else. So, you're against burning people alive and killing people on beaches? Well then were was your outrage when israel was using white phosphorous indiscriminately on Palestinians? Or when they murdered kids on the beach that were playing soccer? You make it like Christians and Jews are the only victims of Islamic terrorism when in fact muslims themselves are the biggest victims. But I guess that's okay because they're muslims, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 So, you're against burning people alive and killing people on beaches? Well then were was your outrage when israel was using white phosphorous indiscriminately on Palestinians? Or when they murdered kids on the beach that were playing soccer? You make it like Christians and Jews are the only victims of Islamic terrorism when in fact muslims themselves are the biggest victims. But I guess that's okay because they're muslims, right? What's your position on ISIS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 What's your position on ISIS? I wish someone would wipe them off the face of the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I wish someone would wipe them off the face of the earth.Would you recommend your kin join forces against them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Would you recommend your kin join forces against them? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 So, you're against burning people alive and killing people on beaches? Well then were was your outrage when israel was using white phosphorous indiscriminately on Palestinians? Or when they murdered kids on the beach that were playing soccer? You make it like Christians and Jews are the only victims of Islamic terrorism when in fact muslims themselves are the biggest victims. But I guess that's okay because they're muslims, right? One thing I've learned is that it is a simple mind that starts a sentence with "Where was your outrage when..." I'm curious...what makes you so sure I wasn't outraged? Have you been following me all these years? Taking notes? Listening to all my conversations? Please...let us all know how YOU know I wasn't outraged. We'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 One thing I've learned is that it is a simple mind that starts a sentence with "Where was your outrage when..." I'm curious...what makes you so sure I wasn't outraged? Have you been following me all these years? Taking notes? Listening to all my conversations? Please...let us all know how YOU know I wasn't outraged. We'll wait. You really want to take this there? You sure? Because I remember you admiring Netanyahu's nut-sack. That's how. Served. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 You really want to take this there? You sure? Because I remember you admiring Netanyahu's nut-sack. That's how. Served. Served? What are you nine? Is there going to be a dance-off at the gym after school to determine the champion? I've written two basic things about Netanyahu. He's a very smart, well-spoken person who clearly has the best interests of his country at the forefront of all he does, which is what he was elected to do. I've also suggested he is, by clear comparison to Obama, a genuine leader unafraid to back down from anything or anyone and who doesn't spend his time ignoring the horrors of the world in exchange for a round of golf and a fundraiser, as his presidential history so clearly has shown. The larger question between us is now this: if we both agree ISIS should be wiped out, is there some other reason you need to chase a moral equivalent that begins with the most simple-minded words of "Where was your outrage when..."? Are you in the JTSP mindset that all Jews need to be wiped out, too or do you just hate people who don't think precisely as you do? Or maybe a bit of both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Served? What are you nine? Is there going to be a dance-off at the gym after school to determine the champion? I've written two basic things about Netanyahu. He's a very smart, well-spoken person who clearly has the best interests of his country at the forefront of all he does, which is what he was elected to do. I've also suggested he is, by clear comparison to Obama, a genuine leader unafraid to back down from anything or anyone and who doesn't spend his time ignoring the horrors of the world in exchange for a round of golf and a fundraiser, as his presidential history so clearly has shown. The larger question between us is now this: if we both agree ISIS should be wiped out, is there some other reason you need to chase a moral equivalent that begins with the most simple-minded words of "Where was your outrage when..."? Are you in the JTSP mindset that all Jews need to be wiped out, too or do you just hate people who don't think precisely as you do? Or maybe a bit of both? You asked and I answered. I just found it funny that you condemn only a certain group of people for doing the same exact thing as those that you support. And no I don't want to see the Jews get wiped off the face of the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 You asked and I answered. I just found it funny that you condemn only a certain group of people for doing the same exact thing as those that you support. And no I don't want to see the Jews get wiped off the face of the earth. Picking up a group of fishermen and individually beheading them is what the IDF has been doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Picking up a group of fishermen and individually beheading them is what the IDF has been doing? ISIS is far worse than Israel. I was referring to burning people alive. White phosphorus will do that. They also kill fishermen for going out too far. Edited February 21, 2015 by Justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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