John Cocktosten Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Jesus makes EJ a successful QB. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Exactly how I feel. I don't understand how someone reading Hackett may not be all that bad, or Hackett was hamstrung by Marrone equals people thinking he is great and the answer, or even deserves the job. I always thought Hackett was only running Marrone's offense. People think that they can twist words and turn them into something that was never said. EJ...I don't know. I'm hopeful but far from convinced. The one thing that gives me hope is that he did look his best when he controlled the game (2 minute drills). Hackett...I don't know. He could have been hamstrung by his HC and/or the limitations of his QBs (& o-line). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Forgive me, being stuck at work makes me pedantic. No worries. I wouldve harrassed you if I saw that. Sometimes I type fast and then enter it and when I see it again, an entire word I thought in my head is a totally different word. Not even a typo, just a different word. And I never proofread before I post, which is stupid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'll trust my eyes. I worry that this is Losman mach II -- lots of excuses for poor play, lots of blame attributed to the coaches, lots of decontextualized stats that made him look better than he clearly was, and lots of support for him because he seemed like a good guy. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. I mean that. I went back and watched a few of the early games and noticed several things. 1- EJ made solid reads and when he missed he missed low. More reps could help it but he might just be inaccuate 2- He was aggressive against the bears and Miami. Something happened against SD and he went into a shell. Not sure if it was him or old Douche 3- Forgot how athletic he is. I dont think EJ is a lost cause, but they should have a pretty solid plan B just in case. I sincerely hope the new coach just lets him rip it. He was much better when he was aggressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 And EJ beat out Lewis, Dixon, Palmer & Tuel. EJ wins. EJ beat out Kolb cleanly, too, before Kolb succumbed to the evil black rubber matt, and then got a concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 EJ beat out Kolb cleanly, too, before Kolb succumbed to the evil black rubber matt, and then got a concussion. I think that's debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I went back and watched a few of the early games and noticed several things. 1- EJ made solid reads and when he missed he missed low. More reps could help it but he might just be inaccuate 2- He was aggressive against the bears and Miami. Something happened against SD and he went into a shell. Not sure if it was him or old Douche 3- Forgot how athletic he is. I dont think EJ is a lost cause, but they should have a pretty solid plan B just in case. I sincerely hope the new coach just lets him rip it. He was much better when he was aggressive He brought the team down for an OT win against the Bears and could have against the Chargers, he just didn't. He played well against the Dolphins for the most part. Sammy had 8-117-1 or something like that, with fractured ribs, in is second game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's Tailor Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 And EJ beat out Lewis, Dixon, Palmer & Tuel. EJ wins. Sorry if unclear, my point was that even winning a QB competition doesn't necessarily prove anything if the competition isn't real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I think that's debatable. It was clear. It was reported all over. Mostly because Kolb was horrible versus EJ being great, but it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Sorry if unclear, my point was that even winning a QB competition doesn't necessarily prove anything if the competition isn't real. That's what I meant too. EJ never faced real competition. It was clear. It was reported all over. Mostly because Kolb was horrible versus EJ being great, but it happened. It may have been clear from some non contact passing drills, but Kolb never got the chance to truly compete with EJ when camp heated up for preseason games, Tough to say EJ beat him cleanly when Kolb was essentially out on August 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Put Romo on the 2014 Bills. Do we still miss the playoffs? Behind that O line and running game. Put EJ on 2014 Cowboys, full FO support, behind that O line and running game. Do they miss the playoffs. A QB needs support to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I think in that picture with Ryan, Marrone and Ryan were comparing who has the bigger man boobs, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Yes to the first question and no to the second question. Romo never looked that great to me without the powerhouse line And Rex dosent look that good without the big moobs Edited January 7, 2015 by mastershake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 That's what I meant too. EJ never faced real competition. It may have been clear from some non contact passing drills, but Kolb never got the chance to truly compete with EJ when camp heated up for preseason games, Tough to say EJ beat him cleanly when Kolb was essentially out on August 3rd. True. But very similar to this year when Tuel and Thad shat the bed in OTAs and early training camp, the Bills already knew they had regressed from last year before the first preseason game. Kolb, too, and EJ looked better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respk Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 It's possible that EJ will be a good QB some day, that day isn't today. The Bills have the defense to get to the playoffs now and for maybe the next year or two. They can't waste another year thinking that EJ is ready. They must find a QB that is ready now to take them to the playoffs. EJ can be the developmental 3rd stringer or maybe the backup if he gets better. The Bills have to find a playoff caliber QB for the next season. I don't think they can wait to see if EJ is that guy and have him fail again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast*eddie Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Why would the Head Coach have to groom the quarterback ? What the heck are the duties of the QB coach ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Why would the Head Coach have to groom the quarterback ? What the heck are the duties of the QB coach ?i would say it is more about continually developing an offense and personnel to fit the progressive nature of a raw QB than "grooming" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Maybe we can find a head coach by September ??? We only have 1500 more interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Tim Graham @ByTimGraham 4s5 seconds ago Sources: Bills have interviewed defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/01/06/sources-bills-interviewed-defensive-coordinator-jim-schwartz/ … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I get the need to attack and bash Doug Marrone. I do. I have enjoyed it myself. But let's not get delusional. Hackett's offense has been terrible the entire time he's been here. The marketing story for 2015 was he and Doug just needed a QB. After all, 9 wins was quite a feat with the CRAP they had to work with, right? Now it's "look! we had the answer all along! Hackett and EJ are right here!" Are you freaking kidding me? Are you guys gluttons for punishment or what? What part of "Marrone is clearly a control freak and in all likelihood stifled the offense" do you not understand? And what say you about the OL, his specialty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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