YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) He said he would trade Marcel Dareus, next year's first and our 1st pick this year for the #1 overall pick this year, in which he would pick Jamies Winston. But the Sammy trade was too risky ... Edited January 6, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrycePaup4ever Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 that would be good move if we kept dareus and used picks only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Yes I know it is swinging for the fences which is what you should do for a QB. If it was a proven NFL franchise QB then maybe I do that. Winston has more question marks than the ACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Andrew Luck coming out of college, yes. Jameis Winston, hell no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrycePaup4ever Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 seems like ej 2.0 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Jameis couldn't handle the temptation at Dave & Busters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 When did he ever have credibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 He said he would trade Marcel Dareus, next year's first and our 1st pick this year for the #1 overall pick this year, in which he would pick Jamies Winston. But the Sammy trade was too risky ... Winston is BY FAR the best QB that will be drafted into the NFL this year (even though he's a total immature douche) but yeah totally agree with your main point "But the Sammy trade was too risky ..." LOL - That station's personalities really believe some of the crap they spew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Andrew Luck coming out of college, yes. Jameis Winston, hell no. Seriously. Drafting Winston with a high 1st rounder is a SERIOUSLY risky move. The kid could be in jail before the 2015 season starts. You don't waste high picks on guys like this and you certainly don't trade away future high picks for the dishonor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 When did he ever have credibility? This^^, one of the many WGR know nothing hacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I am not a big J Busk Bus fan. He's very knowledgeable when it comes to facts and numbers, but his opinions are just awful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Winston is BY FAR the best QB that will be drafted into the NFL this year (even though he's a total immature douche) but yeah totally agree with your main point "But the Sammy trade was too risky ..." LOL - That station's personalities really believe some of the crap they spew. right - I'm not disputing the kid's talent and if they had the #1 pick free and clear I could understand using it on him and hoping he matures off the field. Considering our options at that position are slim. That would be worth the risk. But trading arguably your best player at age 24 and next year's 1st rd pick?! Edited December 30, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Winston is a loose cannon. i wouldn't bet the future of my franchise on him. It's too bad because he's a good player, although he has a slow release so who knows how well that will work for him in the NFL. He's not a guarantee like Andrew Luck was though so no, this is too risky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Joe B doesn't actually know his role. As an insider/beat reporter he constantly provides information on the air that any fan could recite. It's really annoying when they ask him questions in his segment and he states that, "well they have a good defense so..." and other generic phrases that never get in depth explanation. I'm not saying he could have or should have known, but as an example, the kind of information that would be informative to me would be having an inkling this is Orton's last year, or some insight on the Mike WIlliams situation, or how the players feel about Hackett, or the Doug v Doug spat. Basically anything that is not regurgitated fact that any casual observer that watches the games and listens to the recap press conferences would know. But he wears a suit, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Not to mention that this trade is nowhere close to enough to acquire the #1 overall pick. a Second round pick this year (50th overall), a #1 next year and a great defensive tackle with 1yr left on his deal and off field issues. We would need to give up probably 2 more #1s to move up that far. Remember the Rams gave up the #6 overall pick plus a second round pick in 2012 along with their #1 picks in 2013 and 2014 to move from #6 to #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Wonder how much time you guys would give him before labeling him a bust. 5-6 quarters this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'm a fan of his analysis when it is based on film review, facts, and empirical data. His opinions flat out suck. And correct me if I am wrong, is he not a FSU grad? Winston will be a bust. Questionable decision maker and has regressed from last year. And I've touted the simple Wonderlic stat for a long time.... show me a score above 22 and he's in the discussion as a worthwhile pick somewhere in the draft. Anything less and you're drafting someone who will never win a Super Bowl. Complain about the scores all you want but aside from every Super Bowl winner back into the 1980s had a score above 22. Coincidence? I think not. It doesn't guarantee you squat except you're unlikely to win a Super Bowl. Playoffs, sure in some cases. But a Super Bowl, hasn't happened as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Then sign Ponder and we have the last three FSU qbs on our roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumblefish Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 how exactly do you lose what you never had, and tat includes bull puppy and what's his name, look up hack in Webster's and you see a gr 55 group photo............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Winston is dumb as a stump and a character risk. He might grow up, but he won't get smarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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