PolishDave Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I wonder if Orton might get into a rhythm better and earlier if he was given the reigns to run a no huddle right from the start of the game. I feel like when he is in the hurry up it seems like he is more willing to open up and more willing to take shots down field. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsInMaine Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Anything to give someone with more experience to make the play calls ... It showed in the last drive of the game , Orton has more experience in shower shoes then Hackett has calling plays !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito1 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If it stops us from running the fake reverse screen pass to fred, then yes. Our playcalling is so inconsistent I can't stand it. The only thing that can be executed is the 5 and out pass to hogan or some dump off to chandler or fred. We are too afraid to let it go downfield or the qb simply doesn't have time with urbik getting destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC2002 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If it stops us from running the fake reverse screen pass to fred, then yes. Our playcalling is so inconsistent I can't stand it. The only thing that can be executed is the 5 and out pass to hogan or some dump off to chandler or fred. We are too afraid to let it go downfield or the qb simply doesn't have time with urbik getting destroyed They dont trust the Oline or they dont trust the backs because 3rd and 1 and they are throwing it Now as for the no huddle thing I said weeks ago that if they are not going to run the ball seriously then you get ultra aggressive in the passing game and just let it fly down the field and be uber aggressive in your tempo and your formations and hope you can catch some teams with delayed draws etc . Its like at the bye they told Orton just to take care of the ball and the defense would win it for us . But this team kinda needs aggressive Orton even with the occasional pick or crazy sack because the tempo we play with no running game is not conducive to the personnel we have . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I wonder if Orton might get into a rhythm better and earlier if he was given the reigns to run a no huddle right from the start of the game. I feel like when he is in the hurry up it seems like he is more willing to open up and more willing to take shots down field. Your thoughts? So was EJ! Look at the tapes of the Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 So was EJ! Look at the tapes of the Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. Nah.... They tried running an up-tempo offense in Ej's first year and it was a disaster. They rightfully went back to a regular huddle with him in there. Orton is more experienced though and seems like more of a field general pocket passer. I would like to see them try it. I would try it immediately after a turnover that goes in the Bills' favor. Bring the offense in and go no huddle. And keep your foot on the gas as long as it is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 EJ did it. Our best game of the year was after a week of no practice. Orton looked better v. Detroit with barely any reps. So yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The best way to help Orton is to get him some quality OG's, and a stout run game. Then give him a better coaching staff with an OC who actually knows how to build a balanced offense. Running a hurry up with a crap supporting cast will only get him killed, or it would simply resemble last years hurry up and punt offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I surely do. It would get us out of our Lee Smith-Gun Offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 No huddle seems to be working fairly well against Green Bay. It might be the right time to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 No huddle seems to be working fairly well against Green Bay. It might be the right time to try it. Does it come with Aaron Rodgers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Seeing as how Orton is so sloth-like in his movements, I'm afraid he'd get winded if he had to run the no-huddle for an extended period of time. On the bright side, Orton should just be rounding into shape by season's end. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Orton is hopeless in any situation. As much as he sucks though it is not all his fault. That they have not tried to run some hurry-up with a veteran QB and good WR's is another indictment of Marrone. The whole offense is ass backwards. They just let go of Mike Williams and Lee Smith plays 20 snaps a game. Spiller was almost never split out wide. They had Goodwin man to man with a single high safety shaded to Watkins three times in the first half and not once did they throw his way. Rodgers is running the same plays Bill Walsh designed in 1979. Bruce Arians is winning games with a PS RB and a QB even worse than ours. It doesn't have to be this hard to move the ball in today's NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nah.... They tried running an up-tempo offense in Ej's first year and it was a disaster. They rightfully went back to a regular huddle with him in there. Two things. It wasn't any more of a disaster than the offense has been this year. Two, I can't imagine that an no-huddle offense would be a disaster with a friggin' rookie running it. The offensive coaching on this team is just offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 There is little logic in having Orton play QB badly at an even faster tempo. If you want to hang the defense out to dry like last year's unit then sure, why not? Since some fans hate how the team wins at times, they can perhaps enjoy how the team loses instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I wonder if Orton might get into a rhythm better and earlier if he was given the reigns to run a no huddle right from the start of the game. I feel like when he is in the hurry up it seems like he is more willing to open up and more willing to take shots down field. Your thoughts? Definitely, Hackett wants the K-gun, then lets do it. Orton also needs to work overtime to get his timing down with the WRs on deeper routs, he had a lot of just misses on the deeper throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I wonder if Orton might get into a rhythm better and earlier if he was given the reigns to run a no huddle right from the start of the game. I feel like when he is in the hurry up it seems like he is more willing to open up and more willing to take shots down field. Your thoughts? YES! I have been calling for it—to my dog as we watch the games—"Why no, No Huddle?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 You aren't going to get anything more out of Kyle Orton than what we have seen. the mans been in and out of starting lineups for years and its the same old some old. He looks good against bad defenses to give people false hope and looks pitiful against good defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Yeah, Orton knows more about the game than Hackett ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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