Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 It kind of surprises me ESPN hasn't yet done a 30 For 30 film on the Bills 4 Super Bowls in a row. Yeah they didn't win any but no other team has ever come close. When you look at some of the topics they have done shows on it's not like it's only the top stories in sports, they've done shows on surfers, BMX drivers, etc, some people I've never even heard of. I'd think the Bills would be a better story than some of these others?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO'14 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I just watched the Detroit Pistons Bad Boyz. Very good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 They are doing OJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 It kind of surprises me ESPN hasn't yet done a 30 For 30 film on the Bills 4 Super Bowls in a row. Yeah they didn't win any but no other team has ever come close. When you look at some of the topics they have done shows on it's not like it's only the top stories in sports, they've done shows on surfers, BMX drivers, etc, some people I've never even heard of. I'd think the Bills would be a better story than some of these others?? Â If I'm not mistaken, these are done by filmmakers who bring the finished work to ESPN for its blessing. They aren't the works of ESPN itself. I know of one documentary in production about a hot-air balloonist/skydiver/adventurer that the filmmakers are hoping becomes a 30 for 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) That's true, thinking some more about the ones I've watch I believe you are correct. Â I guess I better get busy! Â And yes I agree, most are very good. I just watched When the Garden was Eden. That and Requiem of the Big East were two of my favorites. Â Â If I'm not mistaken, these are done by filmmakers who bring the finished work to ESPN for its blessing. They aren't the works of ESPN itself. I know of one documentary in production about a hot-air balloonist/skydiver/adventurer that the filmmakers are hoping becomes a 30 for 30. Edited November 1, 2014 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 That's true, thinking some more about the ones I've watch I believe you are correct. Â I guess I better get busy! Â And yes I agree, most are very good. I just watched When the Garden was Eden. That and Requiem of the Big East were two of my favorites. i heard Michael Rappaport interviewed on ESPN NY about When the Garden was Eden. Hes a huge Knick fan and said that he had the idea to produce it and pitched it to ESPN. I've been really impressed with all of the 30 for 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills -N- Bills Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I have really enjoyed the 30 for 30 films aswell. They do an excellent job documenting sports over a broad range of topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 What's the hidden story to tell? A lot of those are so successful because it's less about the accomplishment and more about the people. You'd almost have to frame it in the "these guys partied to hard to win it all" and that's no fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 What's the hidden story to tell? A lot of those are so successful because it's less about the accomplishment and more about the people. You'd almost have to frame it in the "these guys partied to hard to win it all" and that's no fun Yeah, the 30 for 30 could be on Jim Kelly. They are not about a team's performance they are about the people. Â My favorites are 2 Escobars, Pony Express, the one on Benjy and the one about Chris Herron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmond_Bills Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Yeah, the 30 for 30 could be on Jim Kelly. They are not about a team's performance they are about the people. Â My favorites are 2 Escobars, Pony Express, the one on Benjy and the one about Chris Herron. Â Didn't they do one on the Miami Hurricanes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The recent one on Brian Bosworth was pretty good. Seeing a humble 49 year old explain to his son how to not end up an idiot like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014   Didn't they do one on the Miami Hurricanes? They did; they did one on the QB class of '83 as well. I was thinking about Kelly going from arrogant, talented college kid to USFL to franchise savior to Super Bowl heartache to Hunter's battle to cancer to a hopefully positive outcome. There is enough Jim Kelly to sustain an hour and a half. It would be phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 They did; they did one on the QB class of '83 as well. Â I was thinking about Kelly going from arrogant, talented college kid to USFL to franchise savior to Super Bowl heartache to Hunter's battle to cancer to a hopefully positive outcome. There is enough Jim Kelly to sustain an hour and a half. It would be phenomenal. Â It's the realistic one and very well may happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) I've really loved the series. Two Escobars was great. I must mention, however, that "Once Brothers" was the most one-sided, propaganda-laden, revisionist-history piece of garbage I'd seen in awhile. Basic documentary failure is rampant in that one. Drazen Petrovic would have been pissed. Edited November 1, 2014 by NickelCity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The John Spanos ownership of the Islanders was great and hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I've really loved the series. Two Escobars was great. I must mention, however, that "Once Brothers" was the most one-sided, propaganda-laden, revisionist-history piece of garbage I'd seen in awhile. Basic documentary failure is rampant in that one. Drazen Petrovic would have been pissed. the Maurice clarett 30 for 30 was pretty one sided as well, in his favor. But apparently then-AD at OSU declined to be involved so I guess it's his own fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 My favorite one was the one about the Baltimore Colts Band and how they kept it alive as the Baltimore Colts Band until the Ravens came to town and now they are the Baltimore Ravens Band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 What's the hidden story to tell? A lot of those are so successful because it's less about the accomplishment and more about the people. You'd almost have to frame it in the "these guys partied to hard to win it all" and that's no fun  The Bills of that era, and many fans, have invested a lot of time and effort in the narrative that getting there was the more difficult part and greater accomplishment. Reality was that they were so talented and had the rest of the outclassed AFC so psyched out that getting there was not really all that hard for them. It wasn't like they were banging out 15-1 or 14-2 seasons year after year in the NFC East to secure homefield so they wouldn't have to go on the road to SF or Dallas etc...they had plenty of no show games during the season and the road thru Denver or Miami of that era was no big deal when the chips were down. The story ultimately is how they blew it at the end year after year....essentially the same way over and over. People like human interest stories about those who learn from their mistakes, improve and overcome. These guys were a stubborn group, from Ralph to Polian and of course to those players....and they paid for it 4 times on SB Sunday. They just kept doing it their way even when it looked like that wasn't enough. For all of that failure when it mattered most they basically all made it to the personal pinnacle of the game...the HOF....anyway. The fans are the ones who never got to the top of the mountain. The angles to make it a great human interest piece do not seem to be there IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Looks like a bunch were recently added to NetFlix, watched the Big East one last night and it was great. Never knew that John Thompson was such an old school troll, when he wore the same sweat as the St Johns coach for their big 1 vs 2 game I was rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The Reggie Miller one is really good, as is the Valvano one. The USFL one, "1994", Marion Jones, Jimmy Conners and Bo Jackson were great too. And the Marcus Dupree--there are so many good ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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