KDIGGZ Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Flutie was a fail? the only fail about that was when they took him out for Rob Johnson and then we haven't been back to the playoffs since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 That's the difference between a QB who isn't afraid to trust what he sees and chuck it vs. one that is and won't. Â GO BILLS!!! Fan perception mostly and a lot of useless threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The Offense put the team behind the 8 ball in the first half with all the turnovers (The defense was playing so well, had the offense showed up in the first half the team could have been up at half time). The defense fell apart late in the game in particular down 8 with 7 minutes left letting up the clinching insurance TD for the Pats*. The offense did play much better in the second half. Had it not been for that horrible Woods call they probably would have put together 3 scoring drives. Â It was a total team loss. You can't have half your team show up one half and then not the other half. To beat an experienced team you are going to need to play a great game 60 minutes on all 3 facets of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Fan perception mostly and a lot of useless threads. Â I hear ya, but EJ had lost confidence and was hesitant to say the least, whereas Orton isn't afraid to make a throw, torpedos be damned. He's definitely gonna toss some INTs from time to time though. That's the flipside. I just hope they aren't in the redzone. Â GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Â Â I hear ya, but EJ had lost confidence and was hesitant to say the least, whereas Orton isn't afraid to make a throw, torpedos be damned. He's definitely gonna toss some INTs from time to time though. That's the flipside. I just hope they aren't in the redzone. Â GO BILLS!!! I agree. Problem being is it's always going to be the negative. Â EJ is conservative, doesn't make the right read, locks on, etc. Â Orton throws more ints, isn't mobile, is drunk, etc. Â Neither one will be any good when the team can't run for 3 yards consistently or run on anything other than 1st, 2nd or 3rd and long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 That's a meaningless stat. The offense was better with EJ. Orton is a bum. He throws the ball downfield too much. I don't like his mustache. Â Wow. Some people are just ignorant. Orton has a light beard, not a mustache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBackersChicago Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 even a blind squirrel can find a nut every now and then.  Does that make up for his numerous turnovers?  plus he gets a bottle of Jack for every td scored  Whats Ortons W/L record in Buffalo?  Guess that mean's EJ is even more clueless than a blind squirrel.  And anyone that brings up Orton's W/L in Buffalo after 1 game should probably could probably learn a thing or two from said squirrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 if you haven't figured it out yet ... Â I'm busting all y'll nads because of the blind faith to a journeyman has been. Â Flutie was there before - FAIL Van Pelt was there before - FAIL Bledsoe was there before - FAIL Holcomb was there before - FAIL Fitzmagic was there before - FAIL Thad Lewis was there before - FAIL Â do you see a pattern? Yes you skipped your favorite QB - Rob Johnson. Â Or did you mean pattern of you posting more after a loss than a win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Â Â Guess that mean's EJ is even more clueless than a blind squirrel. Â And anyone that brings up Orton's W/L in Buffalo after 1 game should probably could probably learn a thing or two from said squirrel. But it's been two games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 But it's been two games? Â Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Â Â Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Good point. I retract my previous question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I agree. Problem being is it's always going to be the negative. Â EJ is conservative, doesn't make the right read, locks on, etc. Â Orton throws more ints, isn't mobile, is drunk, etc. Â Neither one will be any good when the team can't run for 3 yards consistently or run on anything other than 1st, 2nd or 3rd and long. Â I don't feel that way about EJ at all. I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles this adversity, either with us or someone else. Hopefully, it's with us. I think this benching can serve him well as he was really pressing. Â Orton is what he is, which is a QB with the veteran savvy you want and enough of the negatives that you don't. Â But you are dead on; if we can't run the ball effectively WHEN WE WANT TO, then it's a moot point. Â GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't feel that way about EJ at all. I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles this adversity, either with us or someone else. Hopefully, it's with us. I think this benching can serve him well as he was really pressing. Â Orton is what he is, which is a QB with the veteran savvy you want and enough of the negatives that you don't. Â But you are dead on; if we can't run the ball effectively WHEN WE WANT TO, then it's a moot point. Â GO BILLS!!! Well said, K-9. I agree wif errthing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Â Â I don't feel that way about EJ at all. I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles this adversity, either with us or someone else. Hopefully, it's with us. I think this benching can serve him well as he was really pressing. Â Orton is what he is, which is a QB with the veteran savvy you want and enough of the negatives that you don't. Â But you are dead on; if we can't run the ball effectively WHEN WE WANT TO, then it's a moot point. Â GO BILLS!!! I don't either but that's the general consensus. Â He has regressed from when he started last year and I really wonder if that's him not being able to handle the next level or a product of his coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfluker Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Let's have EJ run the offense up until the redzone and bring Orton in as the 'closer'? Â Pittsburgh actually did this back in the 90's. I believe it was Tommy Maddox (or maybe O'Donnell) 'between the 20's' then Kordell Stewart once in the red zone. It was very strange and I don't recall if it really worked very well but they would change QBs once they got into the red zone. Edited October 14, 2014 by dfluker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 50% on W's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 50% on W's In a two game sample to start the season, Andrew Luck was 0% on W's. That means Kyle Orton is infinity times better than Andrew Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) 50% on W's Does 6-6 win the division and/or get into the playoffs? Not counting the first 4 games that ej was 50% also. Edited October 14, 2014 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I wish he could take care of the ball a little better than he has the two games he played so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Let's have EJ run the offense up until the redzone and bring Orton in as the 'closer'? I don't know if you're serious, but I'd actually be in favor of platooning the two QBs. It would give EJ some reps and give the opposing team more to prepare for. The running game would benefit from the read option threat when EJ is in there. I don't think Orton is good enough that you can't take him out of the game. Maybe 80% Orton and 20% Manuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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