shane nelson Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I keep trying to find potential, any potential and I dont see it at all. There is not one part of his game that is solid. With no ability to throw down the feild we are done. This team has talent in many positions, but the QB is terrible. His string needs to be 2 more games, if there is no improvement then he needs to sit on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Rank #29 - Passer Rating Rank #32 - Total QBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 do you want him to pass the ball and catch the ball too? yes, the pick 6 killed the game, so did 4+ dropped passes, the inability for the Offense to pass protect better, and the inability for the Defense to stop Fitzmagic oh and PENALTIES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 do you want him to pass the ball and catch the ball too? yes, the pick 6 killed the game, so did 4+ dropped passes, the inability for the Offense to pass protect better, and the inability for the Defense to stop Fitzmagic oh and PENALTIES Yep, EJ is so good, he just needs help. C'mon really? Stop with the excuses already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 do you want him to pass the ball and catch the ball too? yes, the pick 6 killed the game, so did 4+ dropped passes, the inability for the Offense to pass protect better, and the inability for the Defense to stop Fitzmagic oh and PENALTIES The homer denial is tough. Keep holding out guys. "Buying that #3 jersey was a good decision! You'll see! He just needs to complete a season start to finish, THEN he'll be able to complete a pass to a wide open receiver." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Someone needs to take some accountability. Either EJ is playing scared or Hackett (Hackjob) is calling conservative plays Someone needs to own up as to why our offense sucks so much. We drafted the most explosive playmaker and yet our offense is worse than last year! CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Someone needs to take some accountability. Either EJ is playing scared or Hackett (Hackjob) is calling conservative plays Someone needs to own up as to why our offense sucks so much. We drafted the most explosive playmaker and yet our offense is worse than last year! CBF I think it's a combination of both. EJ has been bad, and Hackett is worse IMO. It appears that Hackett can't game plan worth a crap, just like our QB can't hit an open receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Bust. Unless they make the change very soon, the only item of interest will be in seeing exactly how the train wreck plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 do you want him to pass the ball and catch the ball too? yes, the pick 6 killed the game, so did 4+ dropped passes, the inability for the Offense to pass protect better, and the inability for the Defense to stop Fitzmagic oh and PENALTIES How many of those 4 dropped passes were game changing plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 He looked like a rookie playing in his first game..... first preseason game. Check that first scrimmage at training camp. It was not an NFL performance. It was like watching a college QB .... check that high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 He had guys running free all over the field. I think that yesterday was the worst game that he has ever played in a Bills uniform. Yes they had some drops but he was atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 EJ was horrible. That's undeniable. That said, Watkins needs to stop acting like a f%@$ing child on the field when he drops balls that aren't perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 do you want him to pass the ball and catch the ball too? yes, the pick 6 killed the game, so did 4+ dropped passes, the inability for the Offense to pass protect better, and the inability for the Defense to stop Fitzmagic oh and PENALTIES No worries. There is a "sign him to a 5 year extension now" thread around here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Someone needs to take some accountability. Either EJ is playing scared or Hackett (Hackjob) is calling conservative plays Someone needs to own up as to why our offense sucks so much. We drafted the most explosive playmaker and yet our offense is worse than last year! CBF Maybe that was part of the problem. They listened to the cat calls about training wheels on EJ. Well they featured him today, to the detriment of the run game, in an ill-timed game on the road ... and look what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 When Fitz was here--ah, the glory days!--we had a QB with significant limitations who made his o-line play better than their talent level. Chan's scheming obviously were a big piece there. Now we have a QB whose limitations are making everyone around him worse than their talent level. Not sure that Hackett isn't also making everyone worse, too. Until yesterday, I was in the 'we don't know what we have in EJ yet' camp. But I think we saw enough to know that we don't have an NFL QB, let alone a QB able to carry the team to the playoffs, in EJ. Same as it ever was. kj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) I think it's a combination of both. EJ has been bad, and Hackett is worse IMO. It appears that Hackett can't game plan worth a crap, just like our QB can't hit an open receiver. Hackett is a guy that's learning on the job and that's not a good fit for an NFL offensive coordinator job. When you get to this level you better know what you are doing day #1. He's in over his head right now and this is on Marrone bringing in 'his guy'. EJ is still a 'project' in progress. The jury is still out on whether he progresses enough to be a competent NFL QB. But to me it doesn't look good right now. He didn't play a good game yesterday but I'm still not going to pin the entire loss on him. He had lots of help. But the bottom line is this... While EJ is a 'project' this team is not. This was a winable game with a play or two going the other way. This team is built with a defense, special teams, offensive skill players, and enough on the offensive line to win with a QB at the helm that can put 20 to 24 points on the board consistently. That's not something this offense is going to do with EJ under center right now. Its time to take some pressure off, let him sit and learn, and give this team a chance of getting to the post season while sending a message to the veterans. Marrone has got to be smart enough to understand the consequences of losing and new ownership. I don't see Pegula making the same mistake he made with going with the status quo with the Sabres. This team needs to win and win now. To me it's hard to watch the Bills knowing our best chance of winning is only if the other teams QB plays worse than ours. And blowing chances to get a 'W' in games like this is going to prove costly in the fight for a playoff spot come December. Edited September 29, 2014 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 He had guys running free all over the field. I think that yesterday was the worst game that he has ever played in a Bills uniform. Yes they had some drops but he was atrocious. So, if the conclusion is that EJ is not the right QB for this team, now what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 How many of those 4 dropped passes were game changing plays? sammys 4 yard slant on 2nd and 7 on the first drive was just absolutely back breaking - the team never recovered..... So, if the conclusion is that EJ is not the right QB for this team, now what ? in my opinion, that EJ still deserves time to play himself into (or further out of) the lineup. ortons not the answer. remember, last september is the only other time hes completed 4 consecutive games, so we might actually see some growth with him out there week in and week out if he stays healthy. continuity, building routines, etc.... it didnt work this week, but thats not to say that its impossible for it to come together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) So, if the conclusion is that EJ is not the right QB for this team, now what ? That's a good question because Orton isn't the answer. He is a stopgap at best. I would guess that they take a run at Sam Bradford next year. A pretty hard run. Maybe they look at Cousins or RG as well. This team is ready to compete everywhere but QB IMO. I really have no idea what the rest of the season looks like. Edited September 29, 2014 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 sammys 4 yard slant on 2nd and 7 on the first drive was just absolutely back breaking - the team never recovered..... in my opinion, that EJ still deserves time to play himself into (or further out of) the lineup. ortons not the answer. remember, last september is the only other time hes completed 4 consecutive games, so we might actually see some growth with him out there week in and week out if he stays healthy. continuity, building routines, etc.... it didnt work this week, but thats not to say that its impossible for it to come together. I actually think he's lucky next week is a road game. I'd give him the Detroit game to look better, if he lays an egg in Detroit, I'm not sure he can handle a hostile home crowd the following week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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