Terrakon Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Last year, the conventional wisdom claimed Brady had a down year because of his inexperienced receivers. REALLY, Tom God Brady? So we have an inexperienced QB, new Coach, OC AND injuries to key players, I.e., CJ, Freddie, EJ and then Thad. Now, this year we have two new WR's, one being a rookie. I know EJ shouldn't be mentioned with Holy Brady, but If Brady struggles with new receivers, maybe we need to give our guy a chance. If it's shown that he's injury prone and can't last a season or he can't run the full offense, then fine, we need another QB. I for one want to wait until after the Chicago game until I decide the season is over and I'm gonna ignore football till next year. (Never gonna happen, by the way. Football rules) Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Struggles? He took his team to the AFC championship game. I would love to see the Bills struggling like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Assuming this isn't a joke and you're just new to football, Brady has 3 Super Bowl rings and 5 AFC Championships. Also, Brady's "down year" ended with a loss on the road to Manning's Broncos in the AFC title game. I'll take that "down year" for any Bills QB right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrakon Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 There is a little bit of a joke to this and I am not "new" to football. The point is, Brady did have a down year, especially if you listen to the same people who pan EJ. Yes the Patriots did well. The point is you can't give a superstar on a superstar team an excuse because the people around him are new. That happened. EJ and his surrounding cast are by definition new and have gotten even more so this year. I'm tired of hearing about how terrible the Bills are gonna be. Say what you will, but, I want to see game 1. if they suck and are overmatched, it's not gonna because of EJ alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Give Tommy a break, please. He was a no show today at practice due to an injury. Turns out it was a calf injury. Apparently he cut his leg while shaving. But seriously, Tom was excused today for a freakin calf injury. Poor baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Man, I don't even know what to make of this topic right now. But I'll play, as I see it there are three weak links in the offense. The QB, The O Line and the OC. If at least 2 out of the 3 don't come through in the first few weeks of the season, we're toast. A good to great QB will mask a lot of those inefficiencies. But right now we can't play our way out of a paper bag. The only hope here is go play action by feeding the RBs the ball 25-30 times a game. But our OC is too inexperienced and arrogant to try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrakon Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Give Tommy a break, please. He was a no show today at practice due to an injury. Turns out it was a calf injury. Apparently he cut his leg while shaving. But seriously, Tom was excused today for a freakin calf injury. Poor baby. HAHA! Man, I don't even know what to make of this topic right now. But I'll play, as I see it there are three weak links in the offense. The QB, The O Line and the OC. If at least 2 out of the 3 don't come through in the first few weeks of the season, we're toast. A good to great QB will mask a lot of those inefficiencies. But right now we can't play our way out of a paper bag. The only hope here is go play action by feeding the RBs the ball 25-30 times a game. But our OC is too inexperienced and arrogant to try that. Is the OL weak? We haven't really even seen it yet. Is the OC bad? Can he have a season and a gameplan with one QB and reduced injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Like, for real? Let's use Eli Manning instead of Brady. The reason Eli gets a "break" is bevause he has two rings and is proven. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The only people statign Brady had a down year were the talking heads at the beginning of the year until he created some rhythm. Last year Brady had one of his best years playing with less talent, losing Hernendez Gronk, welker, Wilfork on defense, and they still went 12-4. EJ looks atrocious this pre-season. The reports are from training camp he hasn't progressed, he's regressed. Inaccurate, staring down receivers, and terrible red zone efficiency. I hope all of the people supporting EJ are right, but i doubt it. I was a wait and see all off-season as I expected him to come into camp now knowing the playbook, increase his accuracy and improve timing with WR, and so on. We've seen none of this occur. I hope again I'm wrong and others are right, but there is no evidence supporting this assertion. If EJ stinks it up at Chicago, it will be interesting to see how many games before Orton is our starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Give Tommy a break, please. He was a no show today at practice due to an injury. Turns out it was a calf injury. Apparently he cut his leg while shaving. But seriously, Tom was excused today for a freakin calf injury. Poor baby. did hid wife kick him for not scrubbing the toilets or for not folding the laundry correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 What is the theory that EJ didn't get a break? Random posters bitching on a message board? Jerry Sullivan? In real life EJ was handed ta bigger break than Brady. EJ got to come into the season as the uncontested starter and the team traded away its #1 for 2015 to get him the best "weapon" in the draft. Meanwhile the Pats used a second round draft pick on a QB which has to make it clear to Brady and everyone else that if the 2014 continues a downward performance trend, well the Patriots will accept that he is getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 There is a little bit of a joke to this and I am not "new" to football. The point is, Brady did have a down year, especially if you listen to the same people who pan EJ. Yes the Patriots did well. The point is you can't give a superstar on a superstar team an excuse because the people around him are new. That happened. EJ and his surrounding cast are by definition new and have gotten even more so this year. I'm tired of hearing about how terrible the Bills are gonna be. Say what you will, but, I want to see game 1. if they suck and are overmatched, it's not gonna because of EJ alone. the difference is bradys down year was still the type of year that guys aspire to have. when your down year is still very good, you dont get as much criticism (hint: because you were still very good) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Struggles? He took his team to the AFC championship game. I would love to see the Bills struggling like that. I would settle for a wild card CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Ummm Brady has had a "down year" for a few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Like, for real? Let's use Eli Manning instead of Brady. The reason Eli gets a "break" is bevause he has two rings and is proven. The end. Still, Eli at the beginning of his career is a pretty good comparable for EJ (Eli was actually pretty terrible early on, but showed flashes). And Eli, a QB of high pedigree, still sat behind Warner for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 the difference is bradys down year was still the type of year that guys aspire to have. when your down year is still very good, you dont get as much criticism (hint: because you were still very good) ^This I definitely don't understand this thread. If EJ threw for 4,343 yards (16 yards shy of the Bills franchise record), completed 60.5% of his passes with 25 TDS to 11 INTs (87.3 rating) and led his WRs (who are WAY better than what Brady had last year) to the AFC Championship I would not only give EJ a free pass but I would build a statue of him. Brady's down year was about as good of a year as any Bills QB has ever had. If you win 5 AFC Championships and 3 Super Bowls you tend to get the benefit of the doubt over the guy with 10 mediocre starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 brady finishes 2nd in MVP voting for 2013, but had a "down" year. with that logic, everyone except Peyton Manning sucks. EJ wouldn't finish in the Top 1,000 for MVP voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's Tailor Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 This thread is completely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Brady throw 163 passes to rookie WRs last year--far more than anyone else. This is a catastrophic failure as a thread topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 How was last year a down year for Brady? He was runner-up in the MVP voting. Stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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