John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Crusading is supposed to be against TSW Terms of Service Just thought I would throw that out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 He wasn't gonna last until round 2. GO BILLS!!! That's a near certainty. We know Philly liked him; I also heard another team at the end of round 1 did as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Orton is better than EJ right now, thinking anything different is fooling yourselves into being homers. Kyle has much more experience & has seen drastically more than EJ ever has in the NFL, he also is a winner & has decent to good stats to back up his body of work. One slight twitch or pull up by EJ will bring him out of the game, coaches choice to be careful. Then EJ has decent to good stats. Career QB ratings: Orton 79.9 EJ 77.7. Actually they are pretty much the same. In one year EJ rushed for 186 yds and 2 TDs, in 8 years Orton rushed for 282 yds and 3 TDs. All things considered they are pretty much equal except EJ still has room to grow.EJ is the obvious answer. Oh by the way Ortons a winner he's 35-34 as a starter. A winning record yes. A winner no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 The Bills could sign Daffy Duck or Bugs Bunny and he'd be calling for them to start too. I think Foghorn Leghorn has better size and a quicker release. Just not sure if he can get the plays called... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I think Foghorn Leghorn has better size and a quicker release. Just not sure if he can get the plays called... The play call would be, "Boy, I say Boy..........." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 That's a near certainty. We know Philly liked him; I also heard another team at the end of round 1 did as well. the browns were going to trade back into the 1st to take him according to that regime. He fit chud's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm so glad we have another EJ vs Orton thread. Just what TSW needed! The mind numbing cacophony of pointless posts and threads by anti-EJ Crusaders is simply exhausting. It's the same old circle jerk of ideas that cannot be proven. When will it end??? It won't because there are a VERY SMALL number of posters who refuse to objectively evaluate any information regarding EJ Manuel. For whatever reason, they are convinced he is not an NFL caliber QB and has no chance of ever being one. If you look through the history of their posts over the last four weeks or so, there isn't a QB out there that hasn't been promoted as an upgrade over EJ. They would literally rather have anyone over him - and they take every opportunity to say so, even in threads that are not related to EJ in any way. Their unrelenting desire for EJ to be gone was exemplified in the OP's post when Orton was signed in which he essentially hoped for EJ to "go down" with an injury so Orton could take over. There are many rational, intelligent posters on this forum who are on both sides of the EJ debate that engage in thoughtful debate and, in the end, can respectfully agree to disagree. It is unfortunate that, over the last month or so, this forum seems to have been dominated by a minority that have only one view and feel the need to post it over...and over...and over...ad nauseum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 That's a near certainty. We know Philly liked him; I also heard another team at the end of round 1 did as well. the browns were going to trade back into the 1st to take him according to that regime. He fit chud's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 TBD is having a bad month. C'mon people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 It won't because there are a VERY SMALL number of posters who refuse to objectively evaluate any information regarding EJ Manuel. For whatever reason, they are convinced he is not an NFL caliber QB and has no chance of ever being one. If you look through the history of their posts over the last four weeks or so, there isn't a QB out there that hasn't been promoted as an upgrade over EJ. They would literally rather have anyone over him - and they take every opportunity to say so, even in threads that are not related to EJ in any way. Their unrelenting desire for EJ to be gone was exemplified in the OP's post when Orton was signed in which he essentially hoped for EJ to "go down" with an injury so Orton could take over. There are many rational, intelligent posters on this forum who are on both sides of the EJ debate that engage in thoughtful debate and, in the end, can respectfully agree to disagree. It is unfortunate that, over the last month or so, this forum seems to have been dominated by a minority that have only one view and feel the need to post it over...and over...and over...ad nauseam Excellent assessment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 He wasn't gonna last until round 2. GO BILLS!!! Which team other than the Bills was going to take him in the first round? It's my opinion (can't be proven) that no other team was going to take him in the first round. My feeling on drafting a qb is if you identity your qb prospect and have a strong conviction about him then you should take him sooner rather than later. It is difficult to prove but I heard stories that there were teams interested in taking him near the top of the second round, so a team in a lower draft position could trade up for a high second round pick in order to take him. One "rumor" was that Philly and the new HC, Kelly, were interested in him. , As most people know Nix was very transparent (as he usually is) that he was going to get his franchise qb in that draft year, his last draft. The focus of the scouting department was weighted toward the qb position. When the evaluation process was concluded EJ was the organization''s consensus pick. Only time will tell whether it was a wise decision or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Crusading is supposed to be against TSW Terms of Service Just thought I would throw that out there Agree get this bum out of here. Some of us actually enjoy watching the bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I guess it is on like a mofo, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I think Foghorn Leghorn has better size and a quicker release. Just not sure if he can get the plays called... Forghorn has short arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Give EJ a chance in this mystery offense that the coaches have been hiding, after 3 games we will know about EJ. I hope for one he works out. 14 years of searching for a QB is long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 The play call would be, "Boy, I say Boy..........." Might remind me of Buddy a little bit... He did like drafting those SEC guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Which team other than the Bills was going to take him in the first round? It's my opinion (can't be proven) that no other team was going to take him in the first round. My feeling on drafting a qb is if you identity your qb prospect and have a strong conviction about him then you should take him sooner rather than later. It is difficult to prove but I heard stories that there were teams interested in taking him near the top of the second round, so a team in a lower draft position could trade up for a high second round pick in order to take him. One "rumor" was that Philly and the new HC, Kelly, were interested in him. , As most people know Nix was very transparent (as he usually is) that he was going to get his franchise qb in that draft year, his last draft. The focus of the scouting department was weighted toward the qb position. When the evaluation process was concluded EJ was the organization''s consensus pick. Only time will tell whether it was a wise decision or not. I don't know for a fact, but I believe that Philly was indeed going to take him. I do know that at least one team at the end of round 1 liked him quite a bit. I seem to remember Peter King reporting that Jeff Fisher in St. Louis fielded calls about moving out of the 22 slot if EJ was still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Orton is not a quality NFL QB. Please don't look to him as some kind of savior! The bar has been set so low in Buffalo that mediocre now looks satisfactory. The new owner has the power to be the Bills' savior, not the current circle of clowns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 mother !@#$er....this board has become incredibly unreadable...it really is a shame....this time of year i look forward to reading this board the most...it might be worth it to just stay away from here for awhile...i could see this board imploding after week 1. When fans are booing a first half preseason performance, on kids day no less, then it think you can be pretty sure that this forum will not be the site of reasoned discussion if the Bills lose week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Which team other than the Bills was going to take him in the first round? It's my opinion (can't be proven) that no other team was going to take him in the first round. ... Can anything be said with total certainty about events that never unfolded? No. You play your hunches in a draft and no player was ascending higher or faster than Manuel that entire college post season and leading up to the draft. I know for a fact we were convinced Philly was all set to take him and that one or two other teams were making noise as well. None of that really matters anyway. If people need to convince themselves we were stupid and could have gotten him later, so be it. It serves no useful purpose because when you ID your guy and commit to him, you pull the trigger on the pick. If you're lucky, it pans out. If not, you move on. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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